Venison Prices

Got 3.18€ per kg = £2.75 here in Bavaria on Tuesday (game dealer reckoned it out at 11kg without the head) for a 14 kg yearling with a backstrap damaged by the shot .243 40m 40 yards that was my fault either shoot it or it will be gone in the bushes.
 
Deer suffer with being hut in the lungs too.

As a tracker I'd have to image a large majority of phone calls were about jaw shot deer, right? Because everyone head shooting, knows for the most part they've messed a shot up.
Lung shots on the other hand, a lot of people are very quick too say they've missed when they've actually taken the brisket out or shot the upper spine out on the animal the animal still suffers and dies and no one knows.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actual study done the injury rates of a head shot deer Is much lower, sensible people doing headshots are doing everything in there means to bring the animal down instantly.
Everyone chest shooting deer are looking for hit reactions, and wobbling If there's none of that they assume they've missed, people that also do chest shots because there not confident on shooting the head also usually have much lower accuracy.
(yes I'm guilty of this, actually, still 1mo on targets but... targets and deer arent the same)

I'm guilty of it I shot a roe doe and as I shot my sticks slipped downwards so the gun went upwards, I thought I missed my mate said the deer didnt jump the wall and I believed him, que a month later one of the syndicate members came across my dead deer up against the other side of the wall. (although, too be fair the rushes here could literally cover an entire red stag, antlers and all) but still, I was convinced I missed

For context we did go back the following day with the lab but zero blood, and no scent was picked up.

90% of my tracks I have to take on for people are failed chest shots. The whole headshooting debate really fry’s me so I tend to not comment on it anymore. People often mess up a headshot for the first time in their lives and then never attempt another in their life, spouting off online about how head shooting is the devil’s work and yet they can lose one deer a season from a botched chest shot and just shrug it off saying that it happens from time to time.
 
90% of my tracks I have to take on for people are failed chest shots. The whole headshooting debate really fry’s me so I tend to not comment on it anymore. People often mess up a headshot for the first time in their lives and then never attempt another in their life, spouting off online about how head shooting is the devil’s work and yet they can lose one deer a season from a botched chest shot and just shrug it off saying that it happens from time to time.
A bad shot is a bad shot. Unfortunately with all forms of shooting we will f**k up at some point ...its then how we deal with it thats the important bit 👍
 
Like I said back in March after a few of the regular posters were belly aching about prices.
I was happy to give carcasses away for nothing during the last several weeks of the season.
What ever the current price is ill take it.
I was getting the same price for head shot and chest shot during the first three months of this year.
Never complained just got on with it.
Regarding using copper, the very last three stags I shot was with Barnes TTSX. I still got the same price as when I was using lead.
My prices for this season are 40p down a kilo.
I'm like our Takbok "I'll take it"..🦌
 
What I haven't seen is anyone explain what prices they would like to be receiving and how they come to that conclusion. Not looking to start any arguments, just genuinely interested in what people value their carcass / time / effort at.
I can feasibly turn a 20kg roe carcass into £250 or thereabouts. That takes a fair bit of effort though. By the time I've bought added materials (pork shoulder, sausage casings, cleaning products, packaging, labelling, electricity costs, etc), and factored in my time for stalking, gralloching, transport, storage, certification costs, and insurances, if I wasn't sourcing my own carcasses my offered price of £2.20/kg was bloody generous looking back on it. I no longer attend farmers markets after three years of trying to make it work.
 
90% of my tracks I have to take on for people are failed chest shots. The whole headshooting debate really fry’s me so I tend to not comment on it anymore. People often mess up a headshot for the first time in their lives and then never attempt another in their life, spouting off online about how head shooting is the devil’s work and yet they can lose one deer a season from a botched chest shot and just shrug it off saying that it happens from time to time.
How many chest shots have you tracked over 1000m?i

I’ve tracked more headshot is over a kilometre then I have chest shots. What does that tell you?
 
I can feasibly turn a 20kg roe carcass into £250 or thereabouts. That takes a fair bit of effort though. By the time I've bought added materials (pork shoulder, sausage casings, cleaning products, packaging, labelling, electricity costs, etc), and factored in my time for stalking, gralloching, transport, storage, certification costs, and insurances, if I wasn't sourcing my own carcasses my offered price of £2.20/kg was bloody generous looking back on it. I no longer attend farmers markets after three years of trying to make it work.
The only deer I run in now are reds, and they pay the bar bill!

All the rest go into the freezer of my own consumption, I find it hilarious that every year it’s the same argument people chasing the best price?

And I’ll answer this question and the same as I did last year and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that in fact probably every year for the last seven or eight years, there is no good price!

Get where you can pay the bill and be happy with it because you’re not gonna make any money, yes you could be a friend in a shed and put all your own venison and chase farmers markets, it’s ball ache absolute ball ache
 
Took two roe to Galloway smokehouse, total weight was 23kg got £20.00
Both deer weighed in total 23kg (50lbs) Is that what your saying? no wonder, TBH I would of not paid for those personally.

I shot a buck that weighed 24lbs with Its legs off and gralloch out, after I had broken it into two bone in legs, bone in shoulders, loin, fillet, neck. (so a lot of bone cuts) I was left with 12lbs

In reality? about 5-6lbs of meat.... I am surprised the dealer even paid and took them in your scenario.

Got to actually shoot half decent deer for roe if you want a decent price.
 
Both deer weighed in total 23kg (50lbs) Is that what your saying? no wonder, TBH I would of not paid for those personally.

I shot a buck that weighed 24lbs with Its legs off and gralloch out, after I had broken it into two bone in legs, bone in shoulders, loin, fillet, neck. (so a lot of bone cuts) I was left with 12lbs

In reality? about 5-6lbs of meat.... I am surprised the dealer even paid and took them in your scenario.

Got to actually shoot half decent deer for roe if you want a decent price.
one was 10kg and the other 13kg, which is about average for us.
 
Why would I head shoot them?
You wrote this...
The basic price is calculated on this shot as the majority of shooters place it there, wouldn't be my POA but thats my choice. Dealers mitigate damage by a low price and the quality of carcass, if everyone shot them in the head then the price would go up.

You say one thing then do another..
 
Both deer weighed in total 23kg (50lbs) Is that what your saying? no wonder, TBH I would of not paid for those personally.

I shot a buck that weighed 24lbs with Its legs off and gralloch out, after I had broken it into two bone in legs, bone in shoulders, loin, fillet, neck. (so a lot of bone cuts) I was left with 12lbs

In reality? about 5-6lbs of meat.... I am surprised the dealer even paid and took them in your scenario.

Got to actually shoot half decent deer for roe if you want a decent price.
"Suprised the dealer even took them"🤣🤣
"Got to shoot half decent deer for roe if you want a decent price" 😂😂
Come on, our average buck weight is probably 13kg larder weight, we used to be paid more per kg for roe(£2.80) than red & sika.
The price we get for all deer is pitiful now.
 
"Suprised the dealer even took them"🤣🤣
"Got to shoot half decent deer for roe if you want a decent price" 😂😂
Come on, our average buck weight is probably 13kg larder weight, we used to be paid more per kg for roe(£2.80) than red & sika.
The price we get for all deer is pitiful now.
Where on earth are you shooting deer that are that small around galloway, the average larder weight for us is 17-20kg all day long?? And that's even the terrible shitty moorland bucks.

Edit: I see your not the original comment but still, Its safe too assume he's shooting around galloway If he's sold too them, never heard of a buck being that small even 2 does would be near 30kg easy likely over.
 
one was 10kg and the other 13kg, which is about average for us.
That's incredibly surprising, where about are you shooting them if you dont mind me asking? I'm assuming Its the galloway area obviously but the only deer I've shot sub 15kg Is that tiny little yearling buck, everything else is 17-20kg area.
 
Where on earth are you shooting deer that are that small around galloway, the average larder weight for us is 17-20kg all day long?? And that's even the terrible shitty moorland bucks.

Edit: I see your not the original comment but still, Its safe too assume he's shooting around galloway If he's sold too them, never heard of a buck being that small even 2 does would be near 30kg easy likely over.
Regardless of where in the country they are shot or the size is irrelevant( price we get for roe under 10kg is fair enough) .
They have to be small before they can be big and doubt highly every yearling buck is 15kg dealer weight
The prices we are receiving are a joke along with the deductions they decide on and the random issues they find with carcasses at times (Highland game)
 
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