Monkey Spanker
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What best describes your role in deer stalking? Simple question which will no doubt lead to controversy!
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Monkey Spanker
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Hmm... interesting already! Unless you haven't shot any deer, how can you be neither? What are you then?
Pine Marten
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Well recreational stalkers who only have limited opportunities can't really claim to be deer managers. Yet many, if not most, aren't dedicated trophy hunters because it's too expensive and/or doesn't float their boat. That would include me for instance. So I think you're missing a category for recreational stalker/pot hunter. Because in the end, it's only OK because we eat them (or make sure someone does).
pheasant sniper 1
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It would cover a lot of people imo not being neither...
Somebody buying their stalking but not interested in trophy's would not call themselves a deer manager.... Would they ??
Somebody buying their stalking but not interested in trophy's would not call themselves a deer manager.... Would they ??
Tartan_Terrier
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Good question. For my sake, I haven't got my own permission yet, so can't really be a deer manager, and I'm not necessarily going for trophies, as I'm more interested in gaining stalking experience at present.
Cut+Squirt
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I'm not a pro deer manager by any stretch of the imagination, but im selective about what I shoot on my lease and try to manage the ground and deer best I can. . . does that make me a deer manager, i'm not sure, maybe an amatuer one.
What I can say with certainty is that i'm def not a trophy hunter, as iv found the 6 pointers taste just the same as the spikers.
What I can say with certainty is that i'm def not a trophy hunter, as iv found the 6 pointers taste just the same as the spikers.
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norma 308
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Spot on ...me too
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jim from accy
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Recreational stalker as part of a syndicate, so adhere to a cull plan, suppose that could be classed as management,but i would class myself as a one for the freezer stalker.
griffshrek
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Spot on we hunt them for food,enjoyment not because they have big horns
6pt-sika
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Hmmmm I hunt usually from late July until mid January year and I think of myself as none of the above .
I am not a trophy hunter as such , although I do like trophies . And I don't consider myself a deer manager as I shoot any of them be it females , yearlings or the great ones !
I suppose I'm an oppurtunist !
I am not a trophy hunter as such , although I do like trophies . And I don't consider myself a deer manager as I shoot any of them be it females , yearlings or the great ones !
I suppose I'm an oppurtunist !
Claret_Dabbler
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Pure pot hunter.
I never yet passed up a shot on a pricket on the off-chance something bigger might come along.
I will shoot the first legal deer I see at every opportunity.
I never yet passed up a shot on a pricket on the off-chance something bigger might come along.
I will shoot the first legal deer I see at every opportunity.
Monkey Spanker
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Whilst I can appreciate the reasons for putting neither, anyone who shoots deer is 'managing' the population to some extent surely even if it is just to fill the freezer?
What interests me the most though, is those that think they can be both?
I have always been led to believe that the aim of deer 'management' is to maintain a healthy population of deer which is in balance with its environment. Essentially trying to replicate what nature would have achieved if we hadn't removed all the natural predators! Now then.... naturally we hear of the term 'survival of the fittest' which I'm sure is something we can all understand would be the case with a wild population of deer. This would mean that nature would remove a lot of younger weaker animals along with any old, sick, lame or lazy ones, leaving the mature fittest animals to survive as a healthy population. Other than an older stag/buck which is going back, anything else with trophy antlers is surely in the mature 'fittest' bracket?
So the question is, how can you be a trophy hunter and fulfill the basic aims of deer management? I don't think you can realistically claim to be both?
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What interests me the most though, is those that think they can be both?
I have always been led to believe that the aim of deer 'management' is to maintain a healthy population of deer which is in balance with its environment. Essentially trying to replicate what nature would have achieved if we hadn't removed all the natural predators! Now then.... naturally we hear of the term 'survival of the fittest' which I'm sure is something we can all understand would be the case with a wild population of deer. This would mean that nature would remove a lot of younger weaker animals along with any old, sick, lame or lazy ones, leaving the mature fittest animals to survive as a healthy population. Other than an older stag/buck which is going back, anything else with trophy antlers is surely in the mature 'fittest' bracket?
So the question is, how can you be a trophy hunter and fulfill the basic aims of deer management? I don't think you can realistically claim to be both?
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pheasant sniper 1
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Could you not manage your own permissions but be happy to pay to shoot or be invited to shoot trophy beasts on another persons permission.
Theres folk on here having a great time swapping stalks for trophy beasts not just deer..
Monkey Spanker
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No, I don't think you can as you are still shooting beasts that nature would leave to prosper!
I reckon you'd be surprised at the number of people who call themselves deer managers! .....
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