whats out there????

[new forest]

The 75gr vmax is fine for roe I used it for years its very easy to load and dumps all its energy in the chest of the deer just don't catch the shoulder. How ever the 85gr interbond is a tougher bullet and will pass through fallow and red deer its half the price of the ttsx does less meat damage than the vmax and has a BC of 400 or you could try the VLD hunting.

 

[20-250]

Very tidy rifle, Nutty. It's as good as the photos on Guntrader made it look. Bargain.

 

[nuttyspaniel]

Very tidy rifle, Nutty. It's as good as the photos on Guntrader made it look. Bargain.

Lets hope so. Martyn the owner and a mate of mine are known to each other.


nutty

 

[nuttyspaniel]

The 75gr vmax is fine for roe I used it for years its very easy to load and dumps all its energy in the chest of the deer just don't catch the shoulder. How ever the 85gr interbond is a tougher bullet and will pass through fallow and red deer its half the price of the ttsx does less meat damage than the vmax and has a BC of 400 or you could try the VLD hunting.

thanks for that.


nutty

 

[Mr Lewis]

I have only ever used two bullets in the 243 70grain noslers and 75 grain vmax both are great bullets for fox mounts roe and fallow so no faffing around rezeroing if you are at the deer one day and foxing the next

 

[nuttyspaniel]

I feel really sorry for this poor guy, he comes on and asks a perfectly sensible question and everyone decides that they are experts and tells him what a crap choice of calibre he has made! With regard to the question being asked, the 75gr V-Max would be my choice, they are not as visious when they get out to around 100-150 yards and beyond and inside of that you can neck them if you are concerned about damage.

Cheers for that. Im thick skinned and been about here for a few years so know who to look out for!!


Nutty

 

[nuttyspaniel]

I have only ever used two bullets in the 243 70grain noslers and 75 grain vmax both are great bullets for fox mounts roe and fallow so no faffing around rezeroing if you are at the deer one day and foxing the next

Ecellent cheers this thread is truely picking up now.


Nutty

 

[Mr Lewis]

With the fallow bucks just don't shoulder shoot them as you will not always get good penetration if you have to er your better off with a liver shot on a big buck if you cannot neck them.

Personally though a 6mm on fallow bucks is a bit like turning up to a gun fight armed with a knife

 

[JabaliHunter]

I feel really sorry for this poor guy, he comes on and asks a perfectly sensible question and everyone decides that they are experts and tells him what a crap choice of calibre he has made! With regard to the question being asked, the 75gr V-Max would be my choice, they are not as visious when they get out to around 100-150 yards and beyond and inside of that you can neck them if you are concerned about damage.

The 75gr vmax is fine for roe I used it for years its very easy to load and dumps all its energy in the chest of the deer just don't catch the shoulder.

Ok, point taken, but have you used the 75gr Vmax on roe at 3500fps+ that a .243WSSM will generate?
I haven't, by the way...

 

[nuttyspaniel]

Ok, point taken, but have you used the 75gr Vmax on roe at 3500fps+ that a .243WSSM will generate?
I haven't, by the way...

And that is my worry. It may not be a good mix!! And the reason for the thread.

nutty

 

[Grandhubert]

And that is my worry. It may not be a good mix!! And the reason for the thread.

nutty

Why not just download the WSSM to Winchester levels?

A quick perusal of the Hogdon powder reloading page shows a number of promising loads.

I take it that it's the rifle you've fallen for and not necessarily the cartridge?

 

[20-250]

No real experience of the v max but 70 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips at 3500 fps certainly do the job.

 

[nuttyspaniel]

Why not just download the WSSM to Winchester levels?

A quick perusal of the Hogdon powder reloading page shows a number of promising loads.

I take it that it's the rifle you've fallen for and not necessarily the cartridge?

Thats a possibility, but then in my thinking that defeat the reason to own a wssm.


cheers
nutty

 

[nuttyspaniel]

No real experience of the v max but 70 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips at 3500 fps certainly do the job.

Cheers for that I am a huge Nosler fan.



nutty

 

[jamross65]

I shot a 243AI for a while which although may not have been capable of the MV the WSSM it would not have been too far behind it. I played about with a few bullets in it around the 85grn weight and eventually settled on 85grn HP Sierra Gamekings for a few reasons. They were very, very accurate in my rifle with the twist rate, 1 in 8, I'm not sure what your rifle has, but they also performed very well on deer, good expansion and not excessive meat damage. They are also easily sourced.

I know you are keen to use lighter bullets, but there is a point you reach where the slightly faster MV is not the greatest advantage to be had. If you enjoy shooting at paper and want to do that at distance, then the better BC of the slightly heavier, and longer 85grn+ bullets may offer an advantage that's more usable than the slightly less drop the lighter bullets offer at their greater speeds over shorter distances. But, if you study some ballistic charts of varying bullet weights over different distances, you will see a point where the faster lighter bullets carrying less momentum are overtaken in performance by the heavier bullets. I don't know what distance you intend shooting at but I personally think that in a 6mm chambering the 85grn offers better Allround performance and adaptability than the lighter 70grn.

Just my opinion on it....

 

[Double four]

Nutty i have been using a 75gn hottish varget load well over 3000fps with 75 v max for a few years now, it flattens roe with a vengence !
Im not saying you wont get any damage because i have done, personally though i think it is acceptable maybe your game dealer won't.
Last year i ran out of 75s and i could only get 87v max, i have shot a few roe with them and they appear to inflict a bit less damage. DF

 

[Grandhubert]

Thats a possibility, but then in my thinking that defeat the reason to own a wssm.


cheers
nutty

Well indeed sir, this is why no bugger wants one!

You are back where you started with this thread, you have to decide what to compromise on, bullet weight, bullet cost or velocity.

You don't have any other option that I can see.

 

[Brithunter]

And I get slammed for saying that up front .

Oh well. I still say for your target practice you will be better served with another rifle in a more "sensible" chambering and I still say it will work out cheaper in the long run providing you don't spend thousands on the rifle that is .

 

[Grandhubert]

I think the difference is that the guy has found a nice rifle at a very attractive price, I'm not suggesting he get rid of it but that he re-assess what he thinks it's capable of.

 

[Brithunter]

Ahhh I never suggested he got shot of it just acquired another for range use and practice. I did say that in my opinion that a .243WSM is daft for range use and there are far more suitable ones. Just the same as I regard my own .280 AI not teh best for range use especially with the price of powders today in the UK. nce the load development is done range practice would be with the .308 target rifles or the .222 .

Due to the much shorter barrel life expected with the .243 WSM that's a very good reason for a range rifle for practice.