Where to aim for neck shots

[Utectok]

I wouldn't normally take such a gory photo, but I wanted a record to use as a comparison between the effect of the 270, and the effect of the 243, with exactly the same shot placement and similar range.

Could the deer tell which calibre it was ???

 

[VSS]

have you got the .243 comparison yet?

Yes, but it's not a good photo. I'm going to take another.

Yeah but was it nudging 1/2 a mile ??

No, most certainly not. I know my limitations as far as distance goes. Quite happy to take challenging shots within my self-imposed limit, but beyond that I won't take any shot.

Could the deer tell which calibre it was ???

No, of course not, but the difference in effect was quite significant (although equally effective), and I was making the comparison for my own peace of mind and to use the photos as examples in discussion etc.

 

[Sol]

That photo you posted VSS Is why I would prefer to over-gun than under gun especially for marginalized shots

We use a .243 and sure there's rounds out there that can borderline decapitate a roe with a neck shot but why use that when we've got a super heavy tikka .270 that's probably in the 15lbs range (yeah Its a bloody heavy bastard) fitted with a bipod Its nice and steady a bigger 'oomph' I legitimately do not think there would even be a head left over If you went for a headshot as horrible as it is too say.

But for the deer at least its so swift, its painless.

 

[Dunwaters]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is neck shots often split the oesophagus.

True, and chest shots often hit it too and when it happens you get green goop all over the interior of the chest and lodged between muscle layers on the exit side.
Personally, if it absolutely has to happen, I’d prefer it in the neck close to the impact site where I won’t be eating it.

 

[VSS]

That photo you posted VSS Is why I would prefer to over-gun than under gun especially for marginalized shots

We use a .243 and sure there's rounds out there that can borderline decapitate a roe with a neck shot but why use that when we've got a super heavy tikka .270 that's probably in the 15lbs range (yeah Its a bloody heavy bastard) fitted with a bipod Its nice and steady a bigger 'oomph' I legitimately do not think there would even be a head left over If you went for a headshot as horrible as it is too say.

But for the deer at least its so swift, its painless.

The 243 is very effective for head shots, and in the situation I use it in (park fallow) it's more suitable than my 270.
The time you need "oomph" is when you're punching chest / shoulder shots into bigger animals, imo. Which is why I bought the 270 in addition to the 243.

 

[Sealgair nam fiadh]

Here a video of the fox, I completely understand if you guys think I’m pushing my ability but I work in very large clearfells and my avarage shot during the day is between 300 to 800m because often I can’t get much closer and there all through the shoulder. It is quite remarkable with the technology today how accurate you can be at long range.

If you're average distance is between 300 to 800m your closest shot must be at the end of your barrel and your furthest would be over 1200m, or are you mistaking feet for meters ?

 

[Mungo]

1200m, or are you mistaking feet for meters ?

This would explain a few things. 800 feet is 267 odd yards, which seems about right.

 

[kenbro]

Just as a hand-picked point of order: I am not an anatomist - veterinary or otherwise - and I am finding the descriptions of the various special places in the chest which one might particularly aim for very interesting.
I think, however, that it is correct to say that none of them is part of the CNS.

I wouldn't normally take such a gory photo, but I wanted a record to use as a comparison between the effect of the 270, and the effect of the 243, with exactly the same shot placement and similar

 

[kenbro]

Tried to post a pic of 243 head shot fallow. File too large.
Ken.

 

[VSS]

Tried to post a pic of 243 head shot fallow. File too large.
Ken.

I think my photo wasn't very popular, as it's been blurred over by site mods. Probably for the best, as it wasn't nice and I probably shouldn't have posted it.

The 243 makes a lot less visible mess, in so far as the head looks fairly intact still, but internally it's just pulp. All the bone is reduced to very tiny bits, but mostly stays within the skin unless there's an exit wound at the back of the head (not always the case).
In contrast, the 270 blew the head into quite large bits and scattered them over a fairly wide area.
That's with a 58 grain in the 243 and a 130 grain in the 270. Similar distance.

 

[csl]

think my photo wasn't very popular, as it's been blurred over by site mods.

There wasn't a problem, you get one group arguing against the other and before you know it you have to delete all images!

I blurred it (click it to unblur) because it was the best case for everyone.

 

[jp 7saum]

If you're average distance is between 300 to 800m your closest shot must be at the end of your barrel and your furthest would be over 1200m, or are you mistaking feet for meters ?

im a bit comfused, i work in large clearfells so my closest shot is about 300m and the furthest is 800m, weather depending

 

[Sealgair nam fiadh]

im a bit comfused, i work in large clearfells so my closest shot is about 300m and the furthest is 800m, weather depending

You said your average distance was between 300 and 800m and now you're not, your not the only one who is confused.

 

[Husky]

im a bit comfused, i work in large clearfells so my closest shot is about 300m and the furthest is 800m, weather depending

What calibre are you using for your 800 metre shots and how many are first round hits ?

 

[jp 7saum]

I’m using a 7mm Rsaum with 175gr eldx, so far all have been first round hits and either through or behind the shoulder, don’t get me wrong I’ve shot 2 deer past 800 the rest are under.

 

[jp 7saum]

You said your average distance was between 300 and 800m and now you're not, you’re not the only one who is confused.

I’ve not changed it, my closest shot is 300m and my furthest is 800m so that’s my average shots, nothings been changed

 

[jp 7saum]

Ok for clarity my closet shot is 300m and my furthest is 800m so my average shot is in-between those 2 ranges

 

[Husky]

How many have you shot at 800 metres ?

 

[jp 7saum]

How many have you shot at 800 metres ?

2 the rest are bellow

 

[csl]

It's the same old argument... if you need to deliver a second or third shot etc. can you get near enough to do it? At 800m... 10%, 20%?