I am voting out because I think we have enough money spent on red tape produced in this country without needing to pay for more from Europe. I cant honestly see that Great Britain will cease to trade with all parts of the world because we leave. Trading has been taking place since man first started walking about. I would really like to hear the truth from politicians about the factual benefits of being in or out but I think they tell lies
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Pine Marten
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They can't give you the truth, no-one knows, there are just a lot of different scenarios, but no certainties. It comes down to how risk averse you are in different areas be it the economy, political stability or freedom of movement etc. Then you take your chances based on what you care about most and essentially your best guess. What sort of country or world would you like to live in and which way do you think is most likely to help things move that way?
The deer man
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It might have been back in February you wrote this PM but perhaps you have completely misunderstood our British history and Commonwealth ties with Sikhs, Indians, Africans, Canadians, Australians and many more nations historically linked to us which the EU are quite happy to see cut from us - unless off course on the terms of the un-elected European Commission, however they fail on trade agreements there too! And I mean signed real agreements.
The deer man
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Certainly not in an organisation that is undemocratic with ultimate goals of totalitarianism, is corrupt, inefficient and there for the good of a few on the EU gravy train. Let alone the soaring unemployment among the young, downward spiral of its economy and the disaster of the Eurozone. For Gods sake wake up from this false utopia!
jimmy milnes
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Well said that man
deeangeo
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No wonder Kinnock was spouting off about staying in the eu....he & wife & son as MEP's take upward of 5m a year salary & expenses into their fat bank accounts...!
That'll be them screwed if we vote out, not that they'll starve of course, but will eek out another gravy train.
That'll be them screwed if we vote out, not that they'll starve of course, but will eek out another gravy train.
Think Farage nailed it last night on telly, Davvo came across as a desperate waffler.
Highlandsjohn
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Couldn't agree more.. +100% Out.. john
The deer man
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Don't get me on to that man!
A British container shipping company I was working for in the 80's/90's took up a case against the French Government for unfair state aid given to a competing French shipping company which enabled it to dump the container rates and so put us out of business.
Neil Kinnock took up our case in the EU Commission during the beef crisis until we got a call from his office one day saying if our case was dropped British beef would be allowed back into Europe therefore he could not continue supporting our case.
Our case was dropped and traded for British beef being allowed back into Europe. British beef should have been let back into Europe anyway and our case should never have been dropped as per EU law.
Neil Kinnock went on from being a Commissioner to becoming the Vice-President of the European Commission.
The EU is corrupt, corrupt and corrupt!
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There is always more than one Gravy train in the marshalling yards at any one time, need I say more?
enfieldspares
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Usually found not far from a siding full of bandwagons.
jimmy milnes
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Having watched two of the debates on TV this week I'm not swaying one bit, out and although yes I do believe we're in for a rough ride for a while as the EU bitches and snarls it's blunt teeth at us in the long run our younger generation will be a lot better off.
OUT for me
Regards
Jimmy
OUT for me
Regards
Jimmy
Highlandsjohn
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Well said THAT man too..john
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