The wrath of a woman .... Raw fed dogs.

Monkey Spanker said:
Yes but you need to be careful with tapeworm cysts often found in rabbits which can infect your dog.
Always best to freeze the rabbit and then thaw it to prevent this.
MS
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Presumably they can infect humans too? Cook thoroughly :thumb:

Is salmonella an issue for pets with factory supermarket chickens?
 
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yes as previously stated freezing for a couple of weeks will kill parasites found in whole rabbits,ect. I would also discount any carcases that are medicated with various drugs that failed to work resulting in their demise. a bit of common sense is easily applied, as for eggs and biotin deficiency you would need to feed a very large amount to make this possible, https://www.mypetwarehouse.com.au/my-pet-blog/expert-pet-advice/can-dogs-eat-raw-eggs . there are many books and guide videos made by genuine dog nutritionists to help you make the best choices for your own dogs individual needs.
heres one to be going on with. All about All About Dog Food
 
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Pedro said:
I think there's a general aversion to dogs eating chicken and similar small boned animals, indeed also big bones because, when they have been cooked, there's a danger of bones splintering and splinters being ingested and piercing parts of the dogs internals. Not a great problem with raw food, but the aversion sticks anyway.
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VSS said:
Yes, it's perfect.
One rabbit per dog (minus the hind legs, because I eat those myself), just as it comes - fur on, guts in. Happy healthy dogs.
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Agreed, no need to worry about whole rabbits. A dog that is used to raw meat will deal with fur and small bones no problem. Our Staffords regularly catch pukekos (Australasian Swamphen) and take them into “secret” places for snacks when I’m not looking. (Little do they know I know all their secret places.) What I find is that if a dog eats too much of something hard to digests e.g. feathers then up it comes onto the lawn, to be eaten later for a second time, often by the other dog!

Whilst I get people‘s concerns about parasites etc if I think about what my dogs scoff when they are browsing around the block, then I know feeding them a very recently deceased headshot rabbit is the least of my canine health concerns. The lead that they might ingest if they swallowed bullets in the carcass would be of more concern than a worm. It goes without saying that worming your dogs regularly is essential.
 
Also, I only feed my dogs 6 days a week. It's not natural for a carnivore's gut to be always full. In the wild they hunt, they gorge, they fast.
 
VSS said:
Also, I only feed my dogs 6 days a week. It's not natural for a carnivore's gut to be always full. In the wild they hunt, they gorge, they fast.
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I remember reading that when I first got a dog...and although the carnivores gut can cope with it, I couldn't see why it would be any advantage for them.

As hunter gatherers we rapidly took up the idea of farming in order to eradicate those hungry gaps brought about by lack of hunting or foraging success.

Maybe the hungry gaps were one of the reasons that the dogs chose to become domesticated. They got fed up with not being constantly fed up!

Alan
 
Alantoo said:
I remember reading that when I first got a dog...and although the carnivores gut can cope with it, I couldn't see why it would be any advantage for them.

As hunter gatherers we rapidly took up the idea of farming in order to eradicate those hungry gaps brought about by lack of hunting or foraging success.

Maybe the hungry gaps were one of the reasons that the dogs chose to become domesticated. They got fed up with not being constantly fed up!

Alan
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I think that they benefit from a good clear out, just as we all do from time to time.
In fact, I think it would be a good thing for a lot of people to adopt a six days a week policy, looking at figures for obesity and the problems caused by people's guts being ckoked up with undigested fat.
 
VSS said:
I think that they benefit from a good clear out, just as we all do from time to time.
In fact, I think it would be a good thing for a lot of people to adopt a six days a week policy, looking at figures for obesity and the problems caused by people's guts being ckoked up with undigested fat.
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well there's more than a grain of truth in the above,,,

and looking at what processed crap some people feed their kids,, what chance does the family dog have of a suitable diet.
 
When I had a kennel of 12+ gundogs I used the 6 day rule! I fed raw green bulls belly tripe, when I could get it, (Then mad cow disease played its hand and I went off sale, and I don`t mean the wife!) I`d keep the bellies in a barrel of water and slice it off as I fed it. On the 7th day it was rib bones only. It chalked up the poo, which in turn emptied the annul ducts.

A lot of dogs these days have kidney problems due to the gut becoming lazy, after all the canine is a scavenger and its intestine is geared to extract all of what it consumes. Or so my rural vet informed me.

The dogs coats shone like a clear wine glass and the stamina for a days work was a given.
Spaniel
 
I feed both mine on raw chicken,duck, pheasant,wildboar and deer they are far better for it, no large amounts of crap any more and they drink far less, one of them used to drink gallons a day on dry food, soaked but not now, very pleased with their stimina and condition, regards wayne
 
mereside,
I finish about 17.00hrs. Is there a place at the table for me? i`m only a little one, and it sounds yummy!!
Spaniel
 
reloader54 said:
well there's more than a grain of truth in the above,,,

and looking at what processed crap some people feed their kids,, what chance does the family dog have of a suitable diet.
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Yes to the clean out x 2 I see my own dogs turds after they have eaten sambar hide with its very long coarse bristles,(not hairs) that show up as a turd that is 98% pure bristle glued together with the dogs guts glue (?) And every turd is a torpedo with every bristle in perfect alignment. I see it as natures way of being 'natural gut rake' ...I do worm them by human means of course.

Spaniel said:
When I had a kennel of 12+ gundogs I used the 6 day rule! I fed raw green bulls belly tripe, when I could get it, (Then mad cow disease played its hand and I went off sale, and I don`t mean the wife!) I`d keep the bellies in a barrel of water and slice it off as I fed it. On the 7th day it was rib bones only. It chalked up the poo, which in turn emptied the annul ducts.

A lot of dogs these days have kidney problems due to the gut becoming lazy, after all the canine is a scavenger and its intestine is geared to extract all of what it consumes. Or so my rural vet informed me.

The dogs coats shone like a clear wine glass and the stamina for a days work was a given.
Spaniel
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Ah the tripe! As good as one can get for both man and dog,I like mine cooked though.
 
I give my Spaniels a tin of John West Salmon every Sunday and the look on their faces is a picture to see,I give them a tin opener as well but they have not quite got the hang of how to use one yet.:rofl:
 
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