Calibre for Kipplauf style rifle.
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deeangeo
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Ahhaaa Mr fourth Horseman - but when you're good to go ... will it be with a kipplauf?
Yep that's what it is and I can get 3 off as quick as a bolt action due to size and manoeverability. Just been out with a pal, being driven about is not fun.Saw about 200 Fallow, he nailed 2, I sulked, it's my ground
That's just cruel!
Hopefully you can help him out with some of his cull soon.
deeangeo
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Ooooops! It’s a bugger when that happens ..
He's a good lad for taking me out and it fills the freezers so cant moan really, but will be glad when I am mobile again.
If a man was to be giving serious thought to buying a Kipplauf style rifle (specifically in this case a Haenel Jaeger 9) then what calibres should he consider?
I really fancy one as something a little bit different to the usual bolt action. Currently have .243 that's a keeper and .308 that I would happily sell on to make way for a Jaeger 9.
I understand that a rimmed cartridge (7x57R) would and should be the choice of the traditionalist (myself included) but sadly factory ammo is not readily available in the UK and I'm reluctant to get my head round reloading for another calibre. This leaves .270 and .308 as obvious choices for all UK deer species.
I have no experience of .270, or kipplauf style rifles for that matter but am conscious that this might be a bit of a "feisty" combination? (the only one the Importers have in the UK at present is in this calibre).
Would .308 be a better choice?
Or should I get Viking to order me one in 7x57R, suck it up and source some brass and buy some dies?
Any advice from those with more experience than myself greatly appreciated
You do not “need” a rimmed cartridge. The use of an ejector does not impact on your ability/time to reload. Your fingernail allows you to “extract” the empty case in the same hand that you have the new cartridge in, and then place the empty case in the same pocket. Just a little practice.
I have a K95 Stutzen in .243 because of the easy availability of factory ammo.
Find the rifle you want/desire/lust/afford and then use it
Heym SR20
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I have a 7x65r Combination gun. All up with scope is about 7 1/2 lbs. Using full house 173gn RWS loads it lets you know it’s been fired, but it’s not uncomfortable. And when used on game don’t even notice it. With a 140gn bullet, recoil is light. I have some RWS HIT loads - they are approaching 270 velocities -a bit snappy but perfectly shootable.
There is a good video on YouTube of a K95 in 7x65r taking a Red Stag in France at 300 odd m with that above load.
There is a good video on YouTube of a K95 in 7x65r taking a Red Stag in France at 300 odd m with that above load.
Orion
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Agree with you.
My Heym 44b Kipplauf is in 7x57 Mauser (rimless). Extraction has never been an issue and rifle goes bang and deer fall down.
I know two fellows with Merkel break action rifles in .270 Winchester. The scopes are something like 2.5-10x42 Swaro, so that adds about 1.5 lbs. Recoil is not bad..."hearty".
Heym SR20
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Going back to the rimmed / rimless debate in a break action. With rimmed you can simply tip the cartridge out. Rimless you have to pull it out manually. RUAG do import 7x65r ammo so it is available in the U.K. you might need to buy several boxes though to make you local RFD obtaining it. Or you can simply import cases from likes of Frankonia.
I have had mine for 10 years. I have just ditched my first load of brass. About 80 RWS cases and they have each done 9 or 10 loads. Was starting to get case splits. Have now bought 180 RWS HIT ammo. Expect they and their cases will last a long time.
I have had mine for 10 years. I have just ditched my first load of brass. About 80 RWS cases and they have each done 9 or 10 loads. Was starting to get case splits. Have now bought 180 RWS HIT ammo. Expect they and their cases will last a long time.
Toots
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I have read and re read all comments made in your all posts and have been back and forth in my head with choices many times!
The ability to use readily available factory ammo I decided was a must.
I have today been to have a look at the only Jaeger 9 that Viking Arms have in the UK and was so taken with it that I am soon to be the owner of a .270 Kipplauf
Now just need to decide between MAKuick or Recknagel SSK-II qr mounts
The ability to use readily available factory ammo I decided was a must.
I have today been to have a look at the only Jaeger 9 that Viking Arms have in the UK and was so taken with it that I am soon to be the owner of a .270 Kipplauf
Now just need to decide between MAKuick or Recknagel SSK-II qr mounts
Heym SR20
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I have read and re read all comments made in your all posts and have been back and forth in my head with choices many times!
The ability to use readily available factory ammo I decided was a must.
I have today been to have a look at the only Jaeger 9 that Viking Arms have in the UK and was so taken with it that I am soon to be the owner of a .270 Kipplauf
Now just need to decide between MAKuick or Recknagel SSK-II qr mounts
Enjoy it. But in the meantime whilst it is waiting to arrive, please forget all you know about shooting rifles - that is if you have shooting heavy bolt actions rifles off Bipods etc. You need to go back proper holding the rifle firmly, squeezing it in tight and controlling the recoil, and you need to do this consistently. And have patience - don't expect it to shoot ten rounds into a tiny little group as fast as you can stuff in cartridges. Do expect it though to shoot accurately from a cold barrel and firm position, and to do this consistently.
When scoping it - keep the scope small and low - my suggestion is the Z3 3-9x36 - bright, clear, lightweight and can be mounted nice and low, or possibly the S&B Summit - 1" tuned scope - or just a simple 6x42.
Toots
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Schmidt and Bender 6x42 in the sidelines waiting
. Simple rifle, simple scope I think is called for.
Heym SR20
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Perfect.Schmidt and Bender 6x42 in the sidelines waiting
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