Dual Purpose Scope Advice
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I wouldn't put NV on Swarovski. I don't know about the new digital units, but my Starlight Archer that I've has for 10 years or so really doesn't like expensive scopes with lots of coatings on them. I tried it on Swaro, Nightforce and S&B and the light was "dirty". Oddly enough it loves Sightron S3 which is what I've stuck with on the foxing rifle.
At 14oz the Swaro Z3 4-12x50 is a great scope for woodland stalking and at 16oz my Z5 3.5-18x44 is a cracking scope for the hill. I don't like carrying more weight than I have to if I have the rifle on my back for hours on end.
I keep looking at the March scopes for what seems to be a very good compromise on everything. 24 or 25 mag, 42 or 52mm obj lens, SFP or FFP. Really low weight considering what they are, impeccable mechanics, nice profile and size and really good glass if not quite the mega low light of Swaro.
Nigel is probably right. There is no one size fits all but I think the March is close enough that I am close to finding a buyer for my second kidney.
Nigel is probably right. There is no one size fits all but I think the March is close enough that I am close to finding a buyer for my second kidney.
Out of interest Nigel, have you tried the NV on the Z3 with the newer laser illuminators like the Solaris SRX and other variants etc?
I haven't. Do you think that's cured the problem?
In all honesty I bought the Archer about 10 years ago, changed the laser that came with it to a powerful LED torch, fiddled with scopes until I found the Sightron and have been so pleased with the set up I have not looked for an alternative since. I can see a set of eyes a long way off and can clearly ID a fox at 300m which is about as big as most of the fields around here so don't need much else.
No idea whether the digital NV scopes suffer the same problem as the tubes as I said above.
Which Sightron s3?
Totally agree, I came to the same conclusion
I started with the 2.5-10 but anything below 6x reduced the FOV on the Archer and when shooting during the day I wanted a bit more than 10x so I swapped it for a 6-24 which was perfect for the Archer at low mag and I could zoom in to more than I needed in daylight.
The glass in the Sightron is a bit on the average side and if your expecting great dawn/dusk performance you might be disappointed, but for the job my one does I just stick on the Archer unit a bit earlier.
As far as I can see, Max under £1000. They have a 34mm tubed 5-30x56 that looks very interesting FFP. My concern is that they are based on the lower end range rather than the R2/ZD glass. The specs look amazing, just hope the glass can back it up
Sorry I didn't read it properly. I just read Archer and thought Add on and forgot it is tubed rather than digital. Lasers have certainly cleaned up the image on digi. With an old Ward 700 and an SRX, I can see hare wiggling their noses at nigh on 500yds through the STAC. The Delta Stryker is not a long way behind and it is madness cranking the mag right up and tightening the laser spot down as tight as it will go (which is like firing a pin like beam hundreds of yds)
I don't shoot those ranges but it was a real eye opener after years of using LED torches.
No idea whether tubed would benefit from the extra ooomph or not. Sorry.
To be honest I’m not really looking at using NV with the rifle I have I mind for the scope which is a 7mm Rem Mag I have a PVS14 and the recoils would kill it. But me being as I am, I am likely to change a rifle and keep a scope, which could go on another rifle with more stable recoil.
IOR Lutaz 3-25. Loads of mag, but can be opened right out in the woods. Illuminated ret. FFP, dialable and locking turret, side focus right down and great with a PVS. 7mm can stretch it's legs on the hill or on the range and the scope will take whatever is thrown at it. OPW have a bit of a deal on them at the moment too.
I. Farticus
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Swarovski Z6i 3-18x50 BR-I ret. Cracking scope
I see they are based on meopro range?
I’ve not used that ones ... I’m guessing others have .... I believe the ffp 5x30 has ED glass used in it to an extent as well .
Those features for £1000 max I don’t expect it to be full on swaro or other equivalent ... let’s face it those scopes with similar vein are all £2k plus
But the gap in the last few years between high end glass and lower stuff has shrunk & some cases the glass is not far off but for 1/2 price....
Look forward to seeing them these
Paul
They should be out anytime, can’t wait to see reviews on these.
Tract optics have had some good reviews and have a Precision Rifle orientated scope called the . Schott glass too
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Tract optics have had some good reviews and have a Precision Rifle orientated scope called the . Schott glass too
[/QUOTRifle Scopes
Each rifle scope is built using the highest quality glass and components and is backed by the TRACT Trust Assurance.
What little I’ve read are excellent reviews but your dealing with them direct .... how does that work if repair needed and send it back ....?
With regard to return ... heard horror stories of guys sending kit back to USA for repair then getting nailed on import tax again on way back from repair?
Paul
Chasey
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I have tried multiple options with scopes
Best compromise I have found is the Swarovski 2.5 15 56 BT
That's good enough to shoot anything out to 300m easy 400 at a bit of a push for me. The ballistic turret helps a lot
Its a compromise on light gathering weight and usabuility
8X56 fixed being better in low light (just) and much lighter but less userfreindly in various situations
Z 6i 5 30 50 was too heavy not good enough in low light and frankly the X30 mag bit was fairly unusable except on a range or possibly a Scottish hill off a bipod.
The New Swaro Z8i which is 18 mag, may be even better compromise but its expensive
I have two Z6is a Mk1 and a Mk2 both are fantastic and the MK2s are around 1500 and the MK1s around 1100. Only difference is the Illuminator switch with auto off, glass etc is exactly the same on MK1 and MK2
At 1100 a MK1 Z6is would defo be the most economical high end option
Best compromise I have found is the Swarovski 2.5 15 56 BT
That's good enough to shoot anything out to 300m easy 400 at a bit of a push for me. The ballistic turret helps a lot
Its a compromise on light gathering weight and usabuility
8X56 fixed being better in low light (just) and much lighter but less userfreindly in various situations
Z 6i 5 30 50 was too heavy not good enough in low light and frankly the X30 mag bit was fairly unusable except on a range or possibly a Scottish hill off a bipod.
The New Swaro Z8i which is 18 mag, may be even better compromise but its expensive
I have two Z6is a Mk1 and a Mk2 both are fantastic and the MK2s are around 1500 and the MK1s around 1100. Only difference is the Illuminator switch with auto off, glass etc is exactly the same on MK1 and MK2
At 1100 a MK1 Z6is would defo be the most economical high end option
Great replies on this thread. Thanks.
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