Essex police

[Liveonce]

Cannot find him on the medical register, my error or a Dr of what I wonder?

Find a doctor’s record on the medical register

You can search for a doctor's record using their given name, surname, GMC reference number or gender.

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[Orion]

Cannot find him on the medical register, my error or a Dr of what I wonder?

Find a doctor’s record on the medical register

You can search for a doctor's record using their given name, surname, GMC reference number or gender.

www.gmc-uk.org

Probably a tame quack he’s planning to ‘employ’ on a pay-per-report basis.

I wonder how he’s getting invitations to present his project to clubs etc? The BASC link, albeit tenuous, is interesting.

 

[dan2382]

Dan with all due respect you would do well to read some of the content re medical reports on this forum.

No marker or encoder can be added centrally, your registered GP is your data controller under GDPR and their are strict rules on who can access your medical records even for direct medical care purposes, and firearms are certainly not direct medical care. Your medical records are held only at your GP surgery their is no national central database.
These records depending on your age will be in two formats; Lloyd George paper records and for (most) us oldies together with digital Summary Care Records.

It is virtually impossible for medicert or any alternative GP to gain access to your paper records. They can, like you can, with your consent access your online summary care records. But unless you are a teenager theses will not be your medical history for your life. For example my SCR are for only 1/3 of my life 2/3 are paper records.

Yet the Kent and others police template letter ask your GP if you have EVER had or suffered from certain relevant medical conditions clearly unless you are a teenager medicert or the alternative GP cannot fulfil the EVER condition.

I emailed medicert several weeks back and asked them to explain how they were complying with the EVER condition but they have never replied.

To make a false declaration to obtain firearms by either the applicant or the GP is a criminal act.

However it is not the responsibility of medicert or the alternative GP to add the marker that you own firearms to your medical records this is done at the request of the police by your registered GP after the police have granted the certificate.
HOG2016. However if your GP has refused to engage in the process then it is likely they will not place the marker on your records.

And as my own recent experience of renewing my own certificate has shown when I stated to the FEO he did not need a GP report because I have a marker in my medical records he said the report was still required as even with the marker GPs have no legal duty to inform the police if you start to suffer from any of the relevant medical conditions.

So a one day in five year MOT.

This is a mess. But we have to keep paying and playing the game.

I have seen the ‘marker’ on the screen when I’ve had a blood test so assumed this was added somewhere centrally.
All I can say is that the chap, who I believe was a partner, explained the whole process and that all staff be it admin or doctors were guns and so all for the cause. With regard to paper or digital records he mentioned that only someone in their early twenties would be totally digital. Otherwise they receive a wad (hand gesture 6” high) of papers being the entire medical history which we are entitled to request, not just an online summary. They search through looking for relevant criteria listed by home office and submit a report highlighting any findings. The FEO would then make a decision based on all information available. There was no objection from the FEOs whatsoever. It seemed straight forward to me.

 

[dan2382]

Did have, he resigned a while back. Quite a distinctive name and if you punt it into a few search engines it provokes a few interesting responses and some pics of the guy. Anyone know him, or was he the ‘representative’ who gave the spiel to the wildfowler’s meeting?

Yeah that was him! ‍

 

[Liveonce]

Thanks Dan, my GP and NHSdigital told me that moving the Lloyd George paper records is only done for two reasons, you change GP or you die. They can only be transported by a nhs specialist secure transport company.
The records can only be released with authority of your registered GP as GDPR data controller.

So one or the other is wrong. So far medcert has refused to reply to my email.

Somehow the process medcert are using needs to be made public.

 

[paul o']

Or by a solicitor acting on your behalf, they can get both type paper and electronic, or you can request a full set of med reports at cost .

 

[Liveonce]

Or by a solicitor acting on your behalf, they can get both type paper and electronic, or you can request a full set of med reports at cost .

May be but all that for £50.00? And why would the registered GP who may have refused to engage in the process then go to all the trouble of copying the records or even agreeing to transport them especially if he thinks they may not be returned.

It is up to your registered GP discretion if they allows the patient access to the online records let alone the paper records, they may contain information that the GP would not want you to see. Visit the NHS digital website lots of information on their about your medical records and access to them,

I just cannot see your GP releasing or copying your paper records for non direct medical care.

Will investigate further.

 

[paul o']

No i cant see them giving medcare bugger all but if they are requested by your / or a solicitor acting for you they have too copy all the med reports and transcripts held about you and send them recorded or collected in my case .

 

[Orion]

So, what’s the verdict then?

MedCert appear to be prepared to take money on the promise of delivering a service which they cannot fulfil.

Their website has zero information on who they are or how to contact them other than a nondescript email address which I thought contravened some distance selling regulation or other?

No response to valid enquiries to date.

Anyone else detect a funny smell about it?

 

[paul o']

 

[paul o']

£20 done dusted cert in post
Essex FLO

 

[Suffolk stalker]

After waiting nearly 8 months for my local Medical Centre ( doctors not doing private work due to COVID), I contacted Medcert.
Although I believe it is a legal requirement to provide this medical information within 1 calendar month after a formal written request, the GPS still took 8 weeks to respond to Medcert.
Paperwork was then sent directly by Medcert to Essex police and 2weeks later my new Certificates arrived.
£50 well spent!!
Essex Firearms dept staff very helpful and understanding as usual in my 40+ years of firearms ownership.

 

[sharkbait]

I would for one like to see the current 5 year licence'ing extending to 10 years that would half the feo paperwork and half the money the quacks are now going to be taking off us

 

[Liveonce]

I would for one like to see the current 5 year licence'ing extending to 10 years that would half the feo paperwork and half the money the quacks are now going to be taking off us

May be, or May be the quacks would just double their fee.