No, no, no!

enfieldspares

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So this is what it’s like to be a benefits sponger? When do i get my shell suit? Bag of spliff and heroin to keep me going on the PlayStation all day,

Bob.

Job seekers (or what ever it is called) for those able to work who are currently unemployed. Or those who currently can't work due to the lockdown but are willing to do their bit to help the country rather than stay at home and let the government pay them 80% of their salary.
 
As I have been rendered such that I cannot earn a bean, I’d be quite happy for a bit or work picking. Thank God all those nasty Europeans went home so we can now pick our own!
Hey quit it - I have a lot of good friends amongst those that went home.
Also why does it suddenly take real hardship for lazy Brits to actually go and do menial work? Or do they just lack the motivation compared to Europeans?
 
Hey quit it - I have a lot of good friends amongst those that went home.
Also why does it suddenly take real hardship for lazy Brits to actually go and do menial work? Or do they just lack the motivation compared to Europeans?
At a guess it was a dig at those in favour of Brexit and returning England to the English, lol. Now we can show what true British grit is and how we can do it all by ourselves.
 
The problem with making the unemployed or those who have been "laid off due to non essential work" do fruit and veg picking to help keep the country in food is that the "workers/pickers" might well have to travel to and from the "growing areas" - Or could that maybe be classed as "essential travel"? Even then they might well not be able to keep a distance of 2 meters apart (which is what the government is telling us). If those problems could be solved then it could be a good idea and save the government a lot of the money that they are going to have to pay out in "benefits"!
My wife and I spent several years fruit and veg picking some 15 years ago and made a pretty good living out of it. If you used your head and were willing to travel and work hard you could work and earn good money all year round - On top of that it gave us plenty of fresh air and kept us fit.
 
It's already a problem on farms across the country, seasonal workers, skilled and manual not able to get here. Not that I want a massive influx with the current situation, but fruit/veg/salad farms/growers will need labour from somewhere or food will not get from the field to the shelf!
Any ideas appreciated....
 
There's a fruit farm quite close to here, the road from it leading to the town is festooned with rubbish, beer cans, bottles, every gateway stinks of p1ss, human excrement is often found in peoples gardens, along with vomit, and they see a vehicle approaching and immediately move to the centre of the road to be as obtructional and intimidating as possible. at night after pub closing, gangs of noisy drunken pickers repeatedly gathering outside peoples property often make people sell up and leave the area.
on the odd occasion the police have actually attended the place, often with a member of Interpol, there have been arrests for gang rape,extortion, threatening staff with knives, stealing diesel from the fruit farm and other local farms. and on one occasion to arrest not one but two convicted murderers that had absconded from European prisons and made it to UK on false papers or other illegal means of entry.
I understand there to be similar problems in other places too.
what price a punnet of fruit, eh.
 
At a guess it was a dig at those in favour of Brexit and returning England to the English, lol. Now we can show what true British grit is and how we can do it all by ourselves.
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I think what we’re going through will highlight how undervalued so many people are - not just the qualified NHS staff, but the cleaners, porters and the like. Broaden that out to the folks who get paid a paltry 80p per parcel dropped running themselves ragged every day on a zero-hours contracts and the seasonal labour that pick out fruit and veg.

Eddie - I grew up doing seasonal work in school holidays at Man of Ross in Herefordshire (big fruit producers back in the day) and then went on to spend many an evening with Hungarian friends who worked there to pay their way through the next year of college or university back home.

Not really Brexit related but if you ask me whether some Brits would wipe an arse in a care home with care and compassion, pick fruit from 5:30am till dusk or tirelessly clean a hospital all day and still bring you a cup of tea with a smile then no, I don’t think so - not because they’re lazy but because they see it as below them.
Time (and space) for many to work will come - I’m not afraid of a bit of fruit picking as at the moment I’ve got jack on the go.
 
Not only fruit pickers but also grouse beaters quite a few estates employ them for the grouse
season , they are in the main students the best beaters I have ever seen polite reliable and get on with the job which unfortunately can't be said for a lot of our own
 
Neither, in reply to the truth that "most Brits won't do it" would I run around a wet field of grass for ninety minutes week in and week out getting soaked to the skin in cold wet December rain. And on Boxing Day when I'd rather be at home enjoying Christmas. Yet some do for £100,000 x 52. Professional footballers. If the money is right then people will do it. If farmers paid more Brits no doubt would do it and they could if the supermarkets paid the farmers more for the broccoli, soft fruit, sprouts and etc., etc. and the farmers then paid more. Brits aren't all lazy and idle. But neither will they work for what they don't consider is fair pay for fair work.
 
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The problem with making the unemployed or those who have been "laid off due to non essential work" do fruit and veg picking to help keep the country in food is that the "workers/pickers" might well have to travel to and from the "growing areas" - Or could that maybe be classed as "essential travel"?
Back in the late 40's and up to the late fifties I can remember whole families from the Sussex and the Essex areas moving into 'purpose built' huts in the Hop fields of Rye for the whole Hop picking season.
Our family used to holiday in Hastings in an Aunties house while they were away Hop picking and apparently that was quite common among other families too.
That would solve the problem of travelling for Fruit pickers too wouldn't it.
 
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Neither, in reply to the truth that "most Brits won't do it" would I run around a wet field of grass for ninety minutes week in and week out getting soaked to the skin in cold wet December rain. And on Boxing Day when I'd rather be at home enjoying Christmas. Yet some do for £100,000 x 52. Professional footballers. If the money is right then people will do it. If farmers paid more Brits no doubt would do it and they could if the supermarkets paid the farmers more for the broccoli, soft fruit, sprouts and etc., etc. and the farmers then paid more. Brits aren't all lazy and idle. But neither will they work for what they don't consider is fair pay for fair work.
So true well said.
 
Neither, in reply to the truth that "most Brits won't do it" would I run around a wet field of grass for ninety minutes week in and week out getting soaked to the skin in cold wet December rain. And on Boxing Day when I'd rather be at home enjoying Christmas. Yet some do for £100,000 x 52. Professional footballers. If the money is right then people will do it. If farmers paid more Brits no doubt would do it and they could if the supermarkets paid the farmers more for the broccoli, soft fruit, sprouts and etc., etc. and the farmers then paid more. Brits aren't all lazy and idle. But neither will they work for what they don't consider is fair pay for fair work.
Don't forget the most important link in the chain. The end customer has to be willing to pay more. The end customer is by far the most powerful link in the chain but most people don't care as long it's as cheap as possible.
 
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