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BASC to remove "Legal Expenses Cover" wef 31 July 2020
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Don't reckon I'd get a look in!!
@Conor O'Gorman how is this opinion even allowed into the magazine? It is Abundantly clear that driven shooting is the only thing BASC care about. Pest control is far more important to the countryside than driven game and I say that as a syndicate member!
enfieldspares
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What else do they complain of in that part of rural Norfolk on a Sunday afternoon? The village lads playing football on The Green or the Recreation Ground on a Sunday afternoon?
In my Grandmother's village in Lincolnshire after World War One they purchase land to build a village recreation ground and then, to to face it, they built their "War Memorial Hall" with its Roll of Honour and their War Memorial.
In 1946 when World War Two was finished and done they added four more names to it including that of my mother's first husband. He had been before that war the headmaster in the village school
So that for the the second time in but twenty-five years those "lads" that came back in 1945 as had their fathers in 1919 and their children, some of whom he would have taught, could play football in full sight of the names of those who didn't.
The same was done in my village in Leicestershire. The recreation ground and its war memorial. But I guess that in rural Norfolk lads playing football "on the green" must, like pest control, be quite quite an intolerable irritation of a weekend.
In my Grandmother's village in Lincolnshire after World War One they purchase land to build a village recreation ground and then, to to face it, they built their "War Memorial Hall" with its Roll of Honour and their War Memorial.
In 1946 when World War Two was finished and done they added four more names to it including that of my mother's first husband. He had been before that war the headmaster in the village school
So that for the the second time in but twenty-five years those "lads" that came back in 1945 as had their fathers in 1919 and their children, some of whom he would have taught, could play football in full sight of the names of those who didn't.
The same was done in my village in Leicestershire. The recreation ground and its war memorial. But I guess that in rural Norfolk lads playing football "on the green" must, like pest control, be quite quite an intolerable irritation of a weekend.
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I've applied for a job....
I wouldn't mind being the one to rationalise the company and later liquidate it. Oh what joy to see certain faces.
I wouldn't mind being the one to rationalise the company and later liquidate it. Oh what joy to see certain faces.
It is a always a concern to see a company expanding their Comms/Marketing resource.
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I actually had to read that several times as I could not believe my own eyes. I am quite speechless.
He possibly does not want the likes of the working class spoiling his sunday afternoon pimms by doing the crop protection on possibly their only free day.
I have just had an interesting conversation with a lady from BASC, after emailing Conor. This confirmed that the notice has now been changed to be more accurate. It is only the legal cover in respect to firearms licensing queries that has been curtailed (each member had a 500 quid excess to pay and the first 1/2 million legal fees each year had to be paid by BASC before the insurance kicked in) should you have need of legal cover in regards to the other aspects of the insurance, eg personal liability or personal injury, it is there. The number of queries with licencing that the firearms dept deal with and are then brought to resolution FAR FAR outnumbers any dealt with by the legal cover..... 30 went as far as the insurance last year out of about 150 that started towards it..... as with any insurance, they will only take it on when they think they have a good case, (insurance is there to make money for shareholders NOT to be your mate, so will not take on cases they think will lose) my personal view is that yet again, the biggest issue is BASC's inability to do PR! and put things over better to their bosses, the members. Apparently this has been in discussion for a year in Council.
So 20%, that’s a high occurrence!!
Griggo06
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Private insurance?? How would that work?
Where Would you look?
That does not sound like a very good policy if BASC have to pay £0.5m before it kicks in....is that figure correct? According to the bumf in my recent renewal, up to £250k of cover was included (with the £500 member excess) - no mention of any BASC excess.
merlin
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.....crikey, where to start.....?
Corvid control: a necessary activity
Enthusiastic: good, means more corvids dealt with
Semi-auto: if that is the right tool for the job, sfw? Or should only a SXS be used?
Done at weekends: a lot of people, myself included, have day jobs that mean a lot of pest control cant simply be done on a weekday (...ffs...)
Neighbours don't distinguish between pest control and game shooting: so educate them accordingly so they do
The letter may not have intended to give the impression of being rather sniffy about people undertaking pest control.... but it certainly managed it. Enthusiastic corvid control eh..... Perhaps Peter Glenser QC has forgotten what the "C" in BASC stands for?
the1/2 million is in total for the policy as a whole... the figures that you are mentioning will be per claimant/per claim,
in regards to the person saying 20% it is only 20% of the cases that they thought may merit going for legal solution.... I have asked but the lady could not say... how many are resolved by the firearms licensing intervening or advising correctly.... over last 4 years, they have given me advice as to section/chapter when I have had queries with local force FEO. Other organisations have legal cover but that should start well down the road. No other has the ability to phone up, quote membership number and get the advice there and then.
There are two elements to the current situation.
1) Is the cover viable, or uneconomical ?
2) If it's not viable, are the members who have paid for the cover, and still have cover remaining, entitled to a refund, OR, entitled to cancel the policy, and get a refund proportional to the outstanding cover, on the basis, that the policy is no longer fit for the purpose it was bought ?
1) Is the cover viable, or uneconomical ?
2) If it's not viable, are the members who have paid for the cover, and still have cover remaining, entitled to a refund, OR, entitled to cancel the policy, and get a refund proportional to the outstanding cover, on the basis, that the policy is no longer fit for the purpose it was bought ?
Grannysmith
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Again basc are not considering its members so its time to cancel membership lads
The only time these people will listen is when they start redundancys
The only time these people will listen is when they start redundancys
countrryboy
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It is a complete shambles from start to finish, which seems to be the norm from basc.
My grammar and spelling can be shocking, but I don't need it to do my job.
If I was releasing a fairly contraversial massive policy change I would have all the facts figures and spelling checked and rechecked so it was perfect.
It just looks very very shoddy and Mickey mouse, hell even I would have put more effort into something so important and critical.
The only way this removing the insurance is any way justifiable us if the extra cash and staff are lawyers or QCs, legal secreteries etc.
I would imagine many smaller law firms will have wage bills less than 1 million, esp outside London.
If they done that dropping ins could wel be the right thing to do, but the problem is they won't do it.
And while I'm sure it would be a lot of work the 1st few times, I imagine any test cases or legal precedents will be the same for many cases so it will get easier once they have done a few. U could set up some sort of template for relevant cases
I imagine refusals or revocations will be fairly identical from force to force only difference wil be the individual refusd.
It's not like they will be handling divorce 1 week and something different the next.
My grammar and spelling can be shocking, but I don't need it to do my job.
If I was releasing a fairly contraversial massive policy change I would have all the facts figures and spelling checked and rechecked so it was perfect.
It just looks very very shoddy and Mickey mouse, hell even I would have put more effort into something so important and critical.
The only way this removing the insurance is any way justifiable us if the extra cash and staff are lawyers or QCs, legal secreteries etc.
I would imagine many smaller law firms will have wage bills less than 1 million, esp outside London.
If they done that dropping ins could wel be the right thing to do, but the problem is they won't do it.
And while I'm sure it would be a lot of work the 1st few times, I imagine any test cases or legal precedents will be the same for many cases so it will get easier once they have done a few. U could set up some sort of template for relevant cases
I imagine refusals or revocations will be fairly identical from force to force only difference wil be the individual refusd.
It's not like they will be handling divorce 1 week and something different the next.
Especially having increased the Communications and Public Affairs staff numbers by 38% during the last financial year there appears to be plenty bodies to triple check any announcement.......
Roestalker39
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Vote with your wallet then
I disagree, game shooting is more important in many ways.
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