Stalker62
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Beautiful 577-450.
How many rifles ?
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Technically, in the US, this would not be considered a firearm. Made before 1898 and, importantly, not a weapon for which "....ammunition is readily available..." When I bought my .577 Snider it was mailed to my house. No paperwork. ~Muir
Stalker62
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God Bless you Muir: and all of your American Cousins...
Back her in the "Mother Country"
...577-450 is considered an 'obsolete calibre' and so folk can buy them as 'wall hangers'.A few 'die hards' (myself included) will waste what few hours on God's green earth we have left remaining, fettling about in our respective 'man caves' creating ammunition for such an iconic firearm. To see such
gonzo
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A friend (now passed) had an armoury in the roof space, that was the full footprint of the whole house. And you were falling over guns in there.
I'd usually lose count at 80 or 90 of on ticket guns. Usually when yet another cabinet was found. There was probably in excess of 100 guns? And the off-ticket antiques were on racks on a separate wall, of which there were a good number.
I'm not quite there yet, but doing my best.
Managed to get a few interesting pieces from his widow, when liquidating the collection. (Which took about 2 years!)
I'd usually lose count at 80 or 90 of on ticket guns. Usually when yet another cabinet was found. There was probably in excess of 100 guns? And the off-ticket antiques were on racks on a separate wall, of which there were a good number.
I'm not quite there yet, but doing my best.
Managed to get a few interesting pieces from his widow, when liquidating the collection. (Which took about 2 years!)
alberta boy
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It's the same here , you can buy the MH or Snider without a firearms license . They're fairly common and not that expensive , the ammo on the other hand can be a little more problematic . Luckily for me , I have a friend who is a freak for obsolete rifles and cartridges . I picked up a very nice Snider not too long ago . When I told him about my latest purchase he showed up with 40 rounds of .577 Snider , which , by the way , shoots really well . A friend will give you load data , a good friend will give you ammo lol .
AB
I was in Arizona some time back and went into the Bass Pro Shop in a suburb called Mesa. I immediately went to the firearms section, and ears watering and drooling slightly I asked the bloke behind the counter what quest ions they asked when people came in and bought a hand gun or long arm. He replied, "we only ask if you need help to carry it out to your truck."
Sometimes they also ask if you need any ammo for that. Kinda like "You want fries with that?" at MickieD's...
I like that, in Australia most States don't worry too much about how many firearms you have, although Western Australia is a bit odd, they consider unfired brass to be a loaded round. But mostly you just have what you want and get a permit to acquire from Firearms Registry. The Police are supposed to check your safe, but I haven't had an inspection in 8 years. I have 8 guns and really don't need any more. At least not yet.
antsa
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I have seven rifles and a shotgun:
2 x .22LR; one for rabbits and one kitted out for range work
1 x .222 Rem; walking around foxing rifle
2 x .223 Rem; one with sporter barrel as a truck gun and one with varmint barrel for serious kangaroo culling
1 x .260 Rem; heavy barrel, mostly used for longer range target
1 x .308 Win; sporter barrel, my goto deer rifle
1 x 12 gauge O/U shotgun
Would like to have a 9.3x62 - if I had a use for it, which I don't.
Cheers
2 x .22LR; one for rabbits and one kitted out for range work
1 x .222 Rem; walking around foxing rifle
2 x .223 Rem; one with sporter barrel as a truck gun and one with varmint barrel for serious kangaroo culling
1 x .260 Rem; heavy barrel, mostly used for longer range target
1 x .308 Win; sporter barrel, my goto deer rifle
1 x 12 gauge O/U shotgun
Would like to have a 9.3x62 - if I had a use for it, which I don't.
Cheers
Foxyboy43
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Indeed - there is an article in a certain shooting magazine only this month where the well-known journalist has 6 rifles for shooting foxes and the magazine refers to his collection as “an arsenal” which of course presents really well! Its a wonder they weren’t referred to as “weapons”!
Foxyboy43
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It is just as bad “up North”.
All air rifles regardless of power are treated the same as centre fire rifles; all air pistols regardless of power are treated as bullet-firing pistols and are restricted to approved ranges only. Semi-auto rifles for vermin control are capped at .22 magnum and only last month it became legal to shoot a fox with your deer/wild goat-approved c/f rifle - but only on deer permissions. Conversely we do of course still have pistols/semi-autos in whichever calibre is required to shoot particular competitions thus many shooters have several pistols for differing disciplines but all are strictly approved ranges only as is also the case for target rifle shooting. Bizarrely in a classic example of technology overtaking legislation you can now have a semi-auto 9mm “rifle” on certificate (think of airport police) for competition shooting - approved ranges only. This previously fell into the “banned class” i.e. not permitted anywhere/anytime but keep it to yourself!
Finally there is no such thing as a “licensed collector” in NI but if you shoot enough disciplines………
And they call this the United Kingdom!
Sonicdmb73
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United Kingdom, disjointed democracy.It is just as bad “up North”.
All air rifles regardless of power are treated the same as centre fire rifles; all air pistols regardless of power are treated as bullet-firing pistols and are restricted to approved ranges only. Semi-auto rifles for vermin control are capped at .22 magnum and only last month it became legal to shoot a fox with your deer/wild goat-approved c/f rifle - but only on deer permissions. Conversely we do of course still have pistols/semi-autos in whichever calibre is required to shoot particular competitions thus many shooters have several pistols for differing disciplines but all are strictly approved ranges only as is also the case for target rifle shooting. Bizarrely in a classic example of technology overtaking legislation you can now have a semi-auto 9mm “rifle” on certificate (think of airport police) for competition shooting - approved ranges only. This previously fell into the “banned class” i.e. not permitted anywhere/anytime but keep it to yourself!
Finally there is no such thing as a “licensed collector” in NI but if you shoot enough disciplines………
And they call this the United Kingdom!
Interesting, they never used to allow 9mm rifles, I'm assuming they have to be short enough to legally be considered pistols? Something like a semi auto MP5 perhaps?It is just as bad “up North”.
All air rifles regardless of power are treated the same as centre fire rifles; all air pistols regardless of power are treated as bullet-firing pistols and are restricted to approved ranges only. Semi-auto rifles for vermin control are capped at .22 magnum and only last month it became legal to shoot a fox with your deer/wild goat-approved c/f rifle - but only on deer permissions. Conversely we do of course still have pistols/semi-autos in whichever calibre is required to shoot particular competitions thus many shooters have several pistols for differing disciplines but all are strictly approved ranges only as is also the case for target rifle shooting. Bizarrely in a classic example of technology overtaking legislation you can now have a semi-auto 9mm “rifle” on certificate (think of airport police) for competition shooting - approved ranges only. This previously fell into the “banned class” i.e. not permitted anywhere/anytime but keep it to yourself!
Finally there is no such thing as a “licensed collector” in NI but if you shoot enough disciplines………
And they call this the United Kingdom!
Bavarianbrit
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Perhaps with the Ukraine issue so real we could do a collection akin to what the USA did for the UK in 1940 and donate our unused unneeded weapons to a good cause although attacking spetznatz troops with a .577 feels like being an Afgan no hoper.
The same Afghans that have held off many western and eastern invaders for centuries? The first afghan Anglo war was won by the afghans…not bad considering who they were up against!
There’s a few good books on afghan long rifles and how the British couldn’t get near them due to their longer range.
Foxyboy43
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Hmm. I believe the GIs found the same problem much more recently in Afghanistan - no answer to being pinned down at distance by Mosin Nagants and the odd Lee Enfield when you have a tiddly 5.6!
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