Can't be worse than BASC!
NRA And Handloading
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Can't be worse than BASC!
8x57
Distinguished Member
Oooooo yes they can.
8x57
Distinguished Member
That's because there isn't much good to say about them.
Very much concentrated purely on Bisley, certain disciplines and finding new ways of generating revenue. So much so that many express the view that they are really an anti shooting organisation.
Probably didn’t appear on Risqué calendars either
Yep
Saw the queue after I left you at lunchtime, it must be slowing business!
Can’t be as bad as the impact Lord Roberts Centre roller sports rink users are having on Weekend NSRA shop trade. Just try finding parking within 500 yards of the Centre on a Sunday.
K
We always have lunch there and yes, parking is a nightmare!
I rather like the NRA and what they have been doing under new management. I enjoy seeing the minibus full of probationers trucking around the site on their 6 day course. They are bringing the place back to life and compared with how it was 15 years ago, it is much better now. I don't have an issue with training courses, how else do you learn? I will be doing the CSR course shortly and they are putting on a one day LBP session just for me. Sure it costs money but how else do you pay for the facilities and instructors? The first time I shot there was as a callow youth in 1987, the place was a hole in the ground, it is much better now, much more welcoming to newcomers, and seems to support all types of shooting. I also like BSAC as they seem to do a lot of campaigning for shooters, if you read the minutes of the Firearms Consultative Committee meetings it's always the BSAC rep piping up and they are the ones who track and publish FAC application times and hold the police to account. I'm also an NSRA member and I'm afraid they do seem to be functionally useless so I will not be renewing. I think most shooting disciplines are supported at the NSC from long range to McQueens, LBP and LBR, gallery, I've even seen someone do their DSC 1 shooting test on Century, how we laughed when he had to stop because a deer was running across the range..
There's the British sporting rifle club around the back for Running Deer and even muzzleloaders are welcome. Where else in the UK can you shoot 1,000 yds six days a week and we would have lost access to all MOD ranges if it wasn't for the NRA? Sure it's Bisley focused but then that is the National Shooting Centre, if we don't support it, it will go the same way as the National Hockey Stadium in Milton Keynes (bulldozed) and the National Diving Centre in Chepstow (Closed). As shooter's, we need dedicated facilities and even if you only visit Bisley once in a lifetime, at least it is there.
Anyway, I don't agree with compulsory reloading training but you do need to learn how to do it and that learning can be supported by YouTube but that cannot be the primary source. So accessible and available training courses seem like a good idea.
There's the British sporting rifle club around the back for Running Deer and even muzzleloaders are welcome. Where else in the UK can you shoot 1,000 yds six days a week and we would have lost access to all MOD ranges if it wasn't for the NRA? Sure it's Bisley focused but then that is the National Shooting Centre, if we don't support it, it will go the same way as the National Hockey Stadium in Milton Keynes (bulldozed) and the National Diving Centre in Chepstow (Closed). As shooter's, we need dedicated facilities and even if you only visit Bisley once in a lifetime, at least it is there.Anyway, I don't agree with compulsory reloading training but you do need to learn how to do it and that learning can be supported by YouTube but that cannot be the primary source. So accessible and available training courses seem like a good idea.
8x57
Distinguished Member
Why is the BSAC (British Sub Aqua Club) asking questions about shooting?
I think you've confused BASC with BSAC.
P.S. Don't even go there as regards the BSRC (British Sporting Rifle Club) at Bisley because 2 years ago the NRA did their best to evict the club from the range as they had other designs on that part of the camp.
I think you've confused BASC with BSAC.
P.S. Don't even go there as regards the BSRC (British Sporting Rifle Club) at Bisley because 2 years ago the NRA did their best to evict the club from the range as they had other designs on that part of the camp.
Yes, of course, you are quite right. I used to be a BSAC member but I did confuse it with BASC....
I know the NRA have been doing a lot of house clearing recently to get on a firm financial footing after nearly going bust, but I didn't know about the BSRC.
Kevgun
Well-Known Member
You're right, it was GGG, I couldn't think of it, but knew it had been advertised somewhere.
A mate was shooting it in his AI this weekend and was shooting .3 moa at 200 yards until the 6th shot that opened it up to .6
My club has just asked me to provide my handloading info to continue shooting at Bisley with them:
They wanted to know the exact composition of the load, (powder type, charge weight, bullet), full OAL, and what my source data was.
Fortunately was able to provide (not a wildcat load).
In some respects - it makes sense. I'm sure there are a minority of people are trying all manner of weird ass loads to try and eek out some imaginary extra bit of performance. When something happens - it ruins it for everyone.
They wanted to know the exact composition of the load, (powder type, charge weight, bullet), full OAL, and what my source data was.
Fortunately was able to provide (not a wildcat load).
In some respects - it makes sense. I'm sure there are a minority of people are trying all manner of weird ass loads to try and eek out some imaginary extra bit of performance. When something happens - it ruins it for everyone.
Does your club have the competence to decide if the declared load is safe in your rifle? If so, I would be interested to know how your club would decide on this matter.
If you read the RCO handbook it is a requirement to provide certification that the ammunition was prepared in strict accordance with published reloading manuals and that the ME is within limits. You must be also prepared to provide ammunition for chronograph testing.
Now Bisley is a private range not part of the DIO so the RCO rules do not have to apply to them but they may have elected to apply them as best practice? Dunno.
If you read the handbooks issues are hot loads, out of proof, modern load in old rifles etc etc.
See post above
The NRA requested this as far as I know. I don’t think the club is making a judgement - particularly if it comes from a published source.
scrumbag
Well-Known Member
I think the DIO (or their agents / lesees) can request if they choose to. I think for a long time this hasn't been done.
Scrummy
Yes, but for safety certification and regulations it's the military who call the shots as it's part of the MoD Pirbright Ranges complex for this purpose.
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