8% reduction in certificate holders in England and Wales

[Liveonce]

47,000 reduction in certificate holders one way or another that’s quite a few firearms up for sale, potentially 100,000 plus no wonder my local RFD says gun sales are slow.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Buyers market unless you’re looking for a Stutzen in 35 Whelen!

K

 

[sikamalc]

47,000 reduction in certificate holders one way or another that’s quite a few firearms up for sale, potentially 100,000 plus no wonder my local RFD says gun sales are slow.

Hmm I find that rather hard to believe. That's a lot of certificates. Mind taking into account the amount of people who have passed with Covid, and the slow pace for renewals it has added to the whole mess the FA certificate situation in my opinion.
There still seems to be a regular trickle of newbies putting in for their FAC joining this site though.

 

[Dickie]

Benefit claims are not in the same category of service so you would expect a different economic model so I wouldn’t consider that relevant to this post.
In short my point was that any purchase where operating expense per unit is greater than consumer purchase price per unit is positive to the consumer, detrimental to the provider.
For me applying for the first time I don’t have a view on whether the price is right or wrong, only that I was expecting it to be more expensive than it is as I would perceive that with physical visits etc the operating expense is high - especially when compared as you say to a passport which is almost the same price but I would guess has a lot lower expense

read my posts 22 & 85. I'm sure someone more intellectual could confirm them or poo poo them.

 

[kes]

I have found the returns to Companies house/FCA 2019 for one org. - members 155,600, 2021 members149,000 this equates to very much less than the 8% talked about above.
I wonder which is the wrong figure?

 

[Greenmist]

I have found the returns to Companies house/FCA 2019 for one org. - members 155,600, 2021 members149,000 this equates to very much less than the 8% talked about above.
I wonder which is the wrong figure?

Technically they could both be correct, the original post mentions an 8% reduction in certificate holders, not BASC members

 

[kes]

Technically they could both be correct, the original post mentions an 8% reduction in certificate holders, not BASC members

A little unlikely though, assuming BASC has a representative sample of shooters of all types. Since the percentage loss of BASC members appears to be 3.7 %.
They are still incidentally quoting membership as over 150,000 and by their own submission it is less - but could legitimately be called 150K. Assuming the membership figure is credible and no-one much has left over lead ?

 

[Mickeydredd]

A little unlikely though, assuming BASC has a representative sample of shooters of all types. Since the percentage loss of BASC members appears to be 3.7 %.
They are still incidentally quoting membership as over 150,000 and by their own submission it is less - but could legitimately be called 150K. Assuming the membership figure is credible and no-one much has left over lead ?

BASC (Conor) actually stated "with 150,000 members" in his post last week on the other thread, so one might reasonably assume that this is the rough current position. The FCA return stated 149,836 members as at 31/12/2021.

Perhaps their 150,000 is rounded, just as your 149,000 most certainly is (down of course ), I really don't think there is an issue with the stated member numbers, even yours!

 

[Klenchblaize]

1023 rifles in 243 and 985 in 308 are for sale on Guntrader as of writing.

K