Always always always check !
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Namman
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It's enough to destroy a rifle. It is the rifle design that prevents serious injury because the pressure is vented through the magazine, hence the stories of magazines blowing apart.
Winchester vmax by any chance?
30 out of 50 rounds with splits similar to that, including a few extending down over the shoulder, in a single unfired box of Winchester vmax was what I identified a week or so back. Across 3 boxes checked, there were 46 split necks out of 150 rounds.
Similar to other people, I really like the .17HMR. It's an amazingly accurate and potent little round but the ammo quality is a concern.
Sonicdmb73
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Would you accept a 30% fault rate with any other ammunition?
Nope. I haven't accepted it for this either. I just haven't been able to return those boxes yet. My concern is that any replacement rounds may be equally problematic.
Sonicdmb73
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But surely by continuing to use the cartridge. You are accepting that you have to check and reject X number of rounds.
I don’t care how good it is at the niche it fills. I would not buy one on the basis that the ammunition fails to live up to the expected standard. Just a shame that the manufacturers won’t sort it out.
Foxyboy43
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I still have both and love my triple deuce but the 17 really is a spectacular little round - just make sure you check each one before loading them. Mr H and his fellows should be ashamed of themselves for the way they are choosing to ignore the many reported issues with this round and by blaming rifle manufacturers. There may well be issues with some firearms as there often are with other chamberings but high rates of split cases in unfired rounds is clearly a significant issue not related to the firearm which the industry must address before someone is badly injured by the obvious poor manufacturing process and quality control of this great little round. Just my humble opinion chaps.
I'm hoping the ammo issue does get fixed. If it isn't, the .17HMR will be going, even though I do like it.
Woodsmoke
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It's always worth reminding folk tggjgp can go wrong. Especially with new members joining all the time. I may well resurrect my ND thread on the back of this. Thanks for the safety heads up
I am sure that a thinner needle to inject the priming compound into the neck of the case after the necks have been annealed and then spinning it into the rim would solve it, but hey, what do I know.
I've been lucky, never had an issue, but I do struggle to get how experienced rifle shooters don't recognise an almost silent dud shot from a live one when the crack gives it away?
The best silencer in the world can't moderate the sonic crack when the round goes down range?
Beside my eyes, my old ears are the next most useful sense when judging where my shots land.
It never made any sound as far as i remember - so i thought i had not put a round in the chamber
Have you read my first post - that may make sort of sense
Thanks Bud, sorry, I didn't go back to the first post, please accept my apologies
Thanks Bud, sorry, I didn't go back to the first post, please accept my apologies
No problem at all -
I have just reposted or Bumped it back up because i still sort of cant believe it happened to me and secondly i cant believe how lucky i was not to get hurt.
I thought it may stop one accident in the future especially with a thread or two at the moment about HMR s and hangfires / slow burns etc
Woodsmoke has just posted another issue that many of us have had / faced / witnessed and is another little reminder that accidents can happen to any of us - his is under Humble Pie and credit to him too for opening himself up for scrutiny but providing education for us all.
Possibly a very stupid question but I'm newish and always up for learning. On of the previous posts suggested always taking a rod out to check for obstruction in the barrel.. rather than a rod, would a coiled length of thick nylon strimmer line do the same job but easily carried? May have to unscrew mod to be sure, but easier than carting a rod around? 
Possibly a very stupid question but I'm newish and always up for learning. On of the previous posts suggested always taking a rod out to check for obstruction in the barrel.. rather than a rod, would a coiled length of thick nylon strimmer line do the same job but easily carried? May have to unscrew mod to be sure, but easier than carting a rod around?
I would not have thought it would be strong enough to push out an obstruction - when something gets stuck it really does get stuck
I saw a 12 bore shot with no powder in the cartridge
The shot rolled out of the end of the barrel and the wad was so so hard to remove
You can check for an obstruction, but you can't get it out, when I have helped out a couple of people with squib HMR rounds I have used/recommended 4mm anodised ally rod from from Screwfix for about £3Possibly a very stupid question but I'm newish and always up for learning. On of the previous posts suggested always taking a rod out to check for obstruction in the barrel.. rather than a rod, would a coiled length of thick nylon strimmer line do the same job but easily carried? May have to unscrew mod to be sure, but easier than carting a rod around?
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