Had a spotlight put on me last night

[Bavarianbrit]

She has died. Apologies to the original.

 

[finnbear270]

And a guitar

 

[Heym SR20]

It is only a matter of time before a tragic incident or two happens, especially with all the use of night vision and thermal imaging kit now available at pretty cheap prices. And also with moderators.

Every so called deer culler, fox shooter etc has this kit. They are much much less visible than in the days of lamps and no moderators. They are driving around the countryside taking potshots at deer, sheep foxes or whatever. It takes but a moment to stop in gateway, a quiet crack with a rifle, a quick run and away with the deer and in reality little chance of getting caught. If you do here or see such activity, police are miles away and very little evidence to follow up on.

But before long it’s going to be somebodies dog, daughter or son that gets shot - probably by mistake, but a bullet is still going to kill whether or not it’s fired by mistake.

 

[jb1]

Over here in Ireland, we don't really have those hunt sab groups. There are some but they're small time compared to what you UK guys have to deal with. Poachers are a bigger problem.
The other week, a donkey and two sheep were found shot. People just shooting at eyes in the dark

Not just over your neck of the woods it happened not too far away from me, a cow was shot, again just shooting at eyes, But a COW !!!

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

It is only a matter of time before a tragic incident or two happens, especially with all the use of night vision and thermal imaging kit now available at pretty cheap prices. And also with moderators.

Every so called deer culler, fox shooter etc has this kit. They are much much less visible than in the days of lamps and no moderators. They are driving around the countryside taking potshots at deer, sheep foxes or whatever. It takes but a moment to stop in gateway, a quiet crack with a rifle, a quick run and away with the deer and in reality little chance of getting caught. If you do here or see such activity, police are miles away and very little evidence to follow up on.

But before long it’s going to be somebodies dog, daughter or son that gets shot - probably by mistake, but a bullet is still going to kill whether or not it’s fired by mistake.

Yeah you're right. Police don't want anything to do with it unless you catch them red handed

 

[Gunner223]

You must be joking, they are well equipped, they various groups where I am even have drones.

We see drones very often in the culling season, police everywhere, most antis are paid by crowd funding, there's a chap over milton keynes area that is offering free fuel and cars for antis.

 

[foxhunter]

It is only a matter of time before a tragic incident or two happens, especially with all the use of night vision and thermal imaging kit now available at pretty cheap prices. And also with moderators.

Every so called deer culler, fox shooter etc has this kit. They are much much less visible than in the days of lamps and no moderators. They are driving around the countryside taking potshots at deer, sheep foxes or whatever. It takes but a moment to stop in gateway, a quiet crack with a rifle, a quick run and away with the deer and in reality little chance of getting caught. If you do here or see such activity, police are miles away and very little evidence to follow up on.

But before long it’s going to be somebodies dog, daughter or son that gets shot - probably by mistake, but a bullet is still going to kill whether or not it’s fired by mistake.

It's happened already. A poacher was shot when he lay down in a field trying to avoid being seen.
The poor guy who was out foxing with his thermal spotted the heat source and shot him thinking it was a fox.

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

It's happened already. A poacher was shot when he lay down in a field trying to avoid being seen.

The poor guy who was out foxing with his thermal spotted the heat source and shot him thinking it was a fox.

This is what I was afraid would happen to me . (although I was there legally)

But I mean.....

Poacher shouldn't have been there but the shooter should have really identified his target better. Can't just shoot at a heat signature either. That's as bad as shooting at eyes in the dark with a lamp.

 

[foxhunter]

It's happened already. A poacher was shot when he lay down in a field trying to avoid being seen.


This is what I was afraid would happen to me . (although I was there legally)

But I mean.....

Poacher shouldn't have been there but the shooter should have really identified his target better. Can't just shoot at a heat signature either. That's as bad as shooting at eyes in the dark with a lamp.

Exactly both to blame , poacher shouldn't have been there and shooter should have identified his quarry.
I think this will become more common with the amount of rifles using thermal.
I hate to think how many sheep etc have already been shot by mistake.
It is noticeable how many guys are going back to night vision after using thermal .
I know 2 guys at the minute selling their Thermions as not happy and going back to NV.

 

[DVS1]

We see drones very often in the culling season, police everywhere, most antis are paid by crowd funding, there's a chap over milton keynes area that is offering free fuel and cars for antis.

With his organisational skills why hasn't BASC recruited him!?!?!?

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

Exactly both to blame , poacher shouldn't have been there and shooter should have identified his quarry.
I think this will become more common with the amount of rifles using thermal.
I hate to think how many sheep etc have already been shot by mistake.
It is noticeable how many guys are going back to night vision after using thermal .
I know 2 guys at the minute selling their Thermions as not happy and going back to NV.

Whats their reason for selling? I suppose thermal would be better for identifying an animals presence but not identifying the animal if you get me.

 

[foxhunter]

Whats their reason for selling? I suppose thermal would be better for identifying an animals presence but not identifying the animal if you get me.

Yep for identification, not happy at shooting at heat sources.

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

Yep for identification, not happy at shooting at heat sources.

Is this for deer stalking?

I've never had an issue with foxes. Pretty easy to tell its not a sheep through the spotter

 

[foxhunter]

Is this for deer stalking?

I've never had an issue with foxes. Pretty easy to tell its not a sheep through the spotter

No foxing.

 

[Cyres]

I find its only dog men who are using lamps, everybody else is thermal and NV. Thermals on drones is par for the course. Just the world we live in.

D

 

[Dunwaters]

What part of Ireland does Hook’N’Bullet operate in?

K

The very Wild West?

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

The very Wild West?

Wild south east

 

[User00036]

A lot to ne said for going back to a lamp for foxing. With everyone using NV & thermal, foxes shouldn't be scared off by lamps, Id is easy, particularly at long range, when you can use decent magnification at range with rifle scope. If foxing regularly it puts poachers off, when there is a truck & lamp doing the rounds, word soon gets round.

 

[Dunwaters]

Wild south east

I’m not a million miles away.

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

I’m not a million miles away.

Sure we have probably liked each others posts in Hunting Eire on facebook and not even known it. It must be fate