Chinese red dog

to be honest, I've never heard of this breed before, however a quick google search suggest to me it's like most things coming out from China these days - a knock off of something invented in the West!
 
to be honest, I've never heard of this breed before, however a quick google search suggest to me it's like most things coming out from China these days - a knock off of something invented in the West!

"In the 19th century, that province (as well as some other parts of China) was colonized by Germans after Jiaozhou Bay and Qingdao Peninsula were leased from the Ching Dynasty in 1898. These people arrived in Qingdao Peninsula with their dogs, and after years of breeding their Great Danes and German Shepherd Dogs with local dogs, including the Shandong Xian Hound, the Laizhou Hong was established as its own breed."

As usual, the casual racism displayed on this site is appaling.
 
Taking into account how any one of our well-known breeds (Labs, GSP, Springers) can vary hugely from one strain to another I would be cautious of any advice on a very rare breed.
 
Thanks for all responses so far, am quite interested in it’s hunting ability or lack of it, though appreciate in a rare breed it may differ greatly from animal to animal. Am aware of their loyalty to family and owner and they are rated as good material as protection dogs ( not attack) also Chinese army work them for various needs.
Definitely not lacking in brain and reasoning power really wanting to know if they have a good nose and off switch, was hoping someone may have experience or dabbled other than pure pet. Edit does not have to uk related.
 
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"In the 19th century, that province (as well as some other parts of China) was colonized by Germans after Jiaozhou Bay and Qingdao Peninsula were leased from the Ching Dynasty in 1898. These people arrived in Qingdao Peninsula with their dogs, and after years of breeding their Great Danes and German Shepherd Dogs with local dogs, including the Shandong Xian Hound, the Laizhou Hong was established as its own breed."

As usual, the casual racism displayed on this site is appaling.
One thing you and I agree on.
 
Thanks for all responses so far, am quite interested in it’s hunting ability or lack of it, though appreciate in a rare breed it may differ greatly from animal to animal. Am aware of their loyalty to family and owner and they are rated as good material as protection dogs ( not attack) also Chinese army work them for various needs.
Definitely not lacking in brain and reasoning power really wanting to know if they have a good nose and off switch, was hoping someone may have experience or dabbled other than pure pet. Edit does not have to uk related.
There are breeders in Leicester that train and work as protection dogs.
 
In all seriousness. When I was training, selling and exporting dogs I was moving in circles of Europes dog dealers.
I know that Holland and Belgium sent lots of Malinois and Dutch Herders to China. If their own grown talent was so good why bother buying from outside?

Mixing in Great Danes and Chinese breeds of which I own a Chow Chow is only going to create training difficulties. But I do also own a Malinois x Dutch Herder.

I would beware of Gucci dogs. They have more to do with breeders charging top dollar than benefiting the world of working dogs.

It’s like years ago there were loads of German Shepherds coming in from East Germany and the Czech Republic. People would say that even if it’s a **** dog people will think it’s good because of where it has come from.

If you want an incredibly driven dog with a hard edge then get a Mali or a Dutch Herder or even a working line GSD.

As for tracking, I would echo what one of my old trainers used to say. All dogs have the olfactory ability to find humans and dead animals. What separates all these dogs is their mental focus and desire.
 
In all seriousness. When I was training, selling and exporting dogs I was moving in circles of Europes dog dealers.
I know that Holland and Belgium sent lots of Malinois and Dutch Herders to China. If their own grown talent was so good why bother buying from outside?

Mixing in Great Danes and Chinese breeds of which I own a Chow Chow is only going to create training difficulties. But I do also own a Malinois x Dutch Herder.

I would beware of Gucci dogs. They have more to do with breeders charging top dollar than benefiting the world of working dogs.

It’s like years ago there were loads of German Shepherds coming in from East Germany and the Czech Republic. People would say that even if it’s a **** dog people will think it’s good because of where it has come from.

If you want an incredibly driven dog with a hard edge then get a Mali or a Dutch Herder or even a working line GSD.

As for tracking, I would echo what one of my old trainers used to say. All dogs have the olfactory ability to find humans and dead animals. What separates all these dogs is their mental focus and desire.
Thanks, appreciate the good info and first hand knowledge👍.
 
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