Always always always check !

[Overlay]

love my .17hornet for the rabbits, have a .223 for the foxes.
Got tired of having to check every hmr round for a split neck prior to using them, I put the split necked ones in a bag.
Finally decision to dump the hmr was despite checking the ammo was a stuck bullet in the barrel late at night and a long walk back to the car.
Did consider a 22 hornet but as I had the .223 decided on the .17hornet which was also by all accounts similar report to that of the hmr.
When the FEO asked me why I wanted another .17 calibre I used the contents of the bag as justification
Then had the task of pulling the heads on the hmr in the bag and used the heads up fire forming 22hornet brass to 17hornet . Sold the hmr a few months after getting the hornet.

17 hornet is in a different league to the hmr, long range shooting at its best, I really enjoyed shooting mine, but I didn’t get it just for rabbits shame it didn’t work on foxes, you can only get a certain amount of rifles in the cabinet, would I get another most certainly if I had a use for it at the moment 22 rimmy, WMR 22 hornet 204 222 pretty well covered for all eventualities

 

[Smellydog]

chap I know is still as far as I know still fighting with the importers of the ammo and manufacturers over him and his son being injured from a rifle coming apart using 17 ammo

gun was wrecked and so was his cheek bone and debris hit is son close behind him

There’s smart and there is smart, having a loose cannon of a calibre that will inflict an injury to the operator isn’t my idea of reliable ammunition

You have good reasons to be biased as you are buddy.
I know how these things can be disturbing.
To be honest though, I know a chap that got the bolt from his 6.5 stuck in his face.
It didn't stop me from getting one and he still shoots one. No body knows to this day what caused it.
The knowledge is now out there as to what caused the issue with HMR and what is needed to avoid it happening.
As with any rimfire bullets from WMR and LR can get stuck in the barrel, it is not just a 17 HMR phenomenon.
I'm sure the manufacturing has improved. Litigation will of forced some behind the scenes action.
Hope your friends still shoot.

 

[jall55]

chap I know is still as far as I know still fighting with the importers of the ammo and manufacturers over him and his son being injured from a rifle coming apart using 17 ammo

gun was wrecked and so was his cheek bone and debris hit is son close behind him

There’s smart and there is smart, having a loose cannon of a calibre that will inflict an injury to the operator isn’t my idea of reliable ammunition

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Sounds terrible !

Do you know who the manufacturer was ?

 

[Foxyboy43]

Hmmm.
I think the potential for problems with the .17hmr is really now very well known so IMHO it is 100% down to the individual to accept final responsibility for all aspects of safety each and every time he lifts this or indeed any other rifle.
As Smelly says firearms exploding due to ammunition defects is nothing new indeed I read only recently of some full bore rifle shooters who bought ammunition at Bisley knowing that it could cause an issue in some rifles (ejector disappearing I believe), I just don’t get that!
More recently over here seven 9mm pistols were reportedly destroyed (fortunately without serious injury) as a result of “ammunition problems”. The manufacturer has quietly replaced the pistols and issued a (also quiet) recall of all their 9mm ammunition. I saw two of these and one for sure was caused by a stuck round from a squib load. I have no doubt that at least some of these incidents were the result of poor safety - i.e. ignoring the “dead man’s click” or different detonation sound and idiotically firing a second round. Yes of course the ammo was the root cause of the problem but if the shooter(s) had followed well known safety procedures there would not have been a fireworks display instead of a minor 2 minute inconvenience.
Sooo, the word is out there, a few minutes running your eye over the .17hmr rounds and away you go. Personally I love it - it brings c/f reach to the rimfire and is searingly accurate. I would go so far as to say it would be the last rifle I would wish to part with. Well….. apart of course from the 22LR; triple deuce; 6.5; .308s; err - 7.62x54Rs; 8mm………..

 

[Overlay]

Hmmm.
I think the potential for problems with the .17hmr is really now very well known so IMHO it is 100% down to the individual to accept final responsibility for all aspects of safety each and every time he lifts this or indeed any other rifle.
As Smelly says firearms exploding due to ammunition defects is nothing new indeed I read only recently of some full bore rifle shooters who bought ammunition at Bisley knowing that it could cause an issue in some rifles (ejector disappearing I believe), I just don’t get that!
More recently over here seven 9mm pistols were reportedly destroyed (fortunately without serious injury) as a result of “ammunition problems”. The manufacturer has quietly replaced the pistols and issued a (also quiet) recall of all their 9mm ammunition. I saw two of these and one for sure was caused by a stuck round from a squib load. I have no doubt that at least some of these incidents were the result of poor safety - i.e. ignoring the “dead man’s click” or different detonation sound and idiotically firing a second round. Yes of course the ammo was the root cause of the problem but if the shooter(s) had followed well known safety procedures there would not have been a fireworks display instead of a minor 2 minute inconvenience.
Sooo, the word is out there, a few minutes running your eye over the .17hmr rounds and away you go. Personally I love it - it brings c/f reach to the rimfire and is searingly accurate. I would go so far as to say it would be the last rifle I would wish to part with. Well….. apart of course from the 22LR; triple deuce; 6.5; .308s; err - 7.62x54Rs; 8mm………..

excellent choice of guns there Sir

 

[Foxyboy43]

excellent choice of guns there Sir

Thank you; there may of course be more but modesty………