Quad front mount lift/crane ideas

[waggy 1]

Used this home made system for nearly 25 years

 

[Jvoelcker]

Used this home made system for nearly 25 years

That's the sort of thing. How high is the top of the jib?

 

[waggy 1]

That's the sort of thing. How high is the top of the jib?

Not exactly sure without measuring it and can’t do that for a few days But I guess it is about 5 foot from quad Rack

 

[Jagare]

Or just buy a Hek-Pac fits on the back of a quad and that's a 80 kilo boar plus a few smaller on the front rack for balance.

 

[jthyttin]

If I understood correctly, you want to gralloch the beast vertically, and then transport it on the back of the ATV where you have basket. I'm not entirely sure front mounted hoist would help you loading the beast in the basket (and it would certainly get the ATV covered in blood).

Could you make a removable thingy at the front, that would enable you to route the winch cable to the back of the ATV? And then rethink your arrangement there, personally I'd copy the tilting cradle and hoist idea. So you could get the beast horizontally on the cradle, open it up, move to vertical for dropping the guts and back to horizontal for transport. If you want basket for transport I'm sure you can change the dimensions so that it's possible to fit basket between the beast and cradle before transport (maybe make the cradle fold flat).

 

[Jvoelcker]

If I understood correctly, you want to gralloch the beast vertically, and then transport it on the back of the ATV where you have basket. I'm not entirely sure front mounted hoist would help you loading the beast in the basket (and it would certainly get the ATV covered in blood).

Could you make a removable thingy at the front, that would enable you to route the winch cable to the back of the ATV? And then rethink your arrangement there, personally I'd copy the tilting cradle and hoist idea. So you could get the beast horizontally on the cradle, open it up, move to vertical for dropping the guts and back to horizontal for transport. If you want basket for transport I'm sure you can change the dimensions so that it's possible to fit basket between the beast and cradle before transport (maybe make the cradle fold flat).

It is a balance, the winch is at the front and the basket at the back.

I had looked at the cradle options, but more than happy with suspended grallochs for everything and the basket makes it easier for carrying multiple carcasses.


If an animal is off the ground it is easier to get on to a shoulder and rolled in to the basket - a lot easier than a floppy dead weight off the ground.

I am also considering mounting it on one side at the back, but need to sort the routing.

The basket on the back is removable, used for carrying carcasses to feed sacks - I don't have space on the usual rear rack because that is needed for seating.

I'll get the winch fitted in the next few days and then play with cable routing options.

 

[Jvoelcker]

Or just buy a Hek-Pac fits on the back of a quad and that's a 80 kilo boar plus a few smaller on the front rack for balance.

The basket I have should carry a 80kg boar without issue, as long as I have some weight in the front to keep the nose on the ground

 

[Jagare]

The basket I have should carry a 80kg boar without issue, as long as I have some weight in the front to keep the nose on the ground

I'm going to buy a Hek-pac for my Honda foreman for next season and if i have a really large boar I'll use my back mounted winch for support. It will need a counter weight on the front to keep it all stable though. Here at home I just tow them with the quad back to the barn.

 

[Dickie]

You could fit a 2" receiver front and back and have the winch on a plate so you could transfer it from front to back as required with cable and plugs run to both positions.

 

[Jvoelcker]

You could fit a 2" receiver front and back and have the winch on a plate so you could transfer it from front to back as required with cable and plugs run to both positions.

Yes, thought about that, but logistically will be quite a fiddle.

 

[Dickie]

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Just nuts and bolt with a bit of cable running.

 

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Just nuts and bolt with a bit of cable running.

Yes, I run a 4x4 garage so understand the technicalities, it's the hassle of mounting, storing, linking to a jib, etc.

I think it will be easier just to have a standard front mount tucked up out the way and then a pulley on a front corner to direct backwards to a side mounted hoist

 

[Dickie]

On the Landcruiser the PH had on a trip to Africa they had similar, a roller at the front to go up and clear the bonnet, another roller just behind the cab so the cable cleared it and then used to recover a buffalo into the back with some manual assistance.

 

[Jvoelcker]

On the Landcruiser the PH had on a trip to Africa they had similar, a roller at the front to go up and clear the bonnet, another roller just behind the cab so the cable cleared it and then used to recover a buffalo into the back with some manual assistance.

We specialise in Land Cruisers, but not seen that before.

I think I should be able to do similar using three pulleys, one on the side at the front to throw it backwards, one at bottom of jib and then one at top of the jib.

 

[NickJ]

I've been toying with some sort of crane/hoist on my quad for a while, particularly to help with the bigger fallow.

Most ideas have been based on a rear mounted affair to help with lifting carcasses into the basket on the back.

I've now been given a front mount winch so am toying with the idea of making a front mounted crane utilising the winch and was wondering if anyone has already come up with something themselves.

I have a fully equipped workshop so can make up most things.

Any suggestions?

I would recommend a trailer. Then either use a standard winch or, as I do a sled/hill trailer hybrid from @Stirlinggundogs Other option is a Slee sled.

Best practice means you can't carry a mature fallow on a (standard) quad's racks. It's over the weight limit and a carcass being mainly water means it moves - that equals bad stability. A trailer or sled keeps the weight much lower which obviously aids stability.

 

[Dickie]

That was the Land cruiser set up.

 

[Jvoelcker]

I would recommend a trailer. Then either use a standard winch or, as I do a sled/hill trailer hybrid from @Stirlinggundogs Other option is a Slee sled.

Best practice means you can't carry a mature fallow on a (standard) quad's racks. It's over the weight limit and a carcass being mainly water means it moves - that equals bad stability. A trailer or sled keeps the weight much lower which obviously aids stability.

Thanks, but not looking to use a trailer and happy with loading and stability issues.

 

[Jvoelcker]

I would recommend a trailer. Then either use a standard winch or, as I do a sled/hill trailer hybrid from @Stirlinggundogs Other option is a Slee sled.

Best practice means you can't carry a mature fallow on a (standard) quad's racks. It's over the weight limit and a carcass being mainly water means it moves - that equals bad stability. A trailer or sled keeps the weight much lower which obviously aids stability.

Also won't be using in Mull - nice smooth grass fields down here.

Btw, thanks for the Corbett's details, we have booked in for two days on hinds with them, but I don't think it is Jim taking us.

 

[NickJ]

Also won't be using in Mull - nice smooth grass fields down here.

Btw, thanks for the Corbett's details, we have booked in for two days on hinds with them, but I don't think it is Jim taking us.

Ha! Yes, if you have flat ground you will be fine I'm sure

Glad you got sorted with Lochbuie, Jim is getting on a bit now so it might be his son Tom (who now runs the farm) or one of the guys who helps him. I shot my first red on the hill on Laggan on Lochbuie, 1985, my Godfather was the farm manager there in the 1970s, grand fine spot

 

[Jvoelcker]

Ha! Yes, if you have flat ground you will be fine I'm sure

Glad you got sorted with Lochbuie, Jim is getting on a bit now so it might be his son Tom (who now runs the farm) or one of the guys who helps him. I shot my first red on the hill on Laggan on Lochbuie, 1985, my Godfather was the farm manager there in the 1970s, grand fine spot

There are 4 of us wanting to go out, 3 daughters to shoot, really looking forward to getting them out on the hill.

Hoping to train them up on Roe and Munties over the summer.