Whats the latest with the lead/copper debate?

It’s irrelevant if, like me, you don’t sell your venison.

The whole copper/lead (non)issue is just the next click of the garrotte around shooters’ necks anyway. The ultimate object is what it’s always been: A total ban on private firearms ownership, much less shooting animals.

maximus otter
 
You're a bundle of joyous optimism, aren't you?

;-)

Much of my optimism vanished with my AK, my £7,000 of handguns (together with my chances of representing my country at pistol shooting), sensible pricing, my REACH powders etc. etc.

52 years of FAC possession gives one perspective.

I now hear that the next government is going to charge what they decide is the full cost of FAC issue/renewal. Obviously they’ll base that on the price quoted by the cheapest and most efficient police force…

:rofl:

maximus otter
 
Anyone know what stage the debate is at now?

Hi Homer.
I was hoping someone might have answered your question, as I'd like to know too.

My understanding is it's a mixed bag, in that some organisations, like Forestry Commission and estates that supply the food chain insist on no lead. Likewise with game dealers. Its thier business and are free to make restrictions.

Legislation has not been passed to ban lead bullets.

So if you keeping the carcass for yourself and the landowner is happy, you can still use lead.

And I don't see that changing and time soon.

Happy to be corrected 😊

M
 
I am using copper now, only time I have had issues is with 3 high neck shots, one of which resulted in a lost deer, but people probably loosing occasional deer with lead too.
 
i sell my venison and i will switch in order to be a selling point but......

not one customer has asked about lead or lead free.......

yet ive been asked about my sausage and if the rusk was gluten free.......


Paul
 
It’s irrelevant if, like me, you don’t sell your venison.

The whole copper/lead (non)issue is just the next click of the garrotte around shooters’ necks anyway. The ultimate object is what it’s always been: A total ban on private firearms ownership, much less shooting animals.

maximus otter
I really don’t think it is, provided it’s restricted to stuff that goes into the food chain. Which is actually further than the current proposal’s go.

I was very much a sceptic of copper bullets but use them now in 4/5 different calibres and they do work well, so how is it a restriction?
 
I really don’t think it is, provided it’s restricted to stuff that goes into the food chain. Which is actually further than the current proposal’s go.

I was very much a sceptic of copper bullets but use them now in 4/5 different calibres and they do work well, so how is it a restriction?

a) Lead has worked just fine for hundreds of years with no issues.

b) lf copper works fine in your rifles, wonderful. lt may well not work in others, or some shooters may not be bothered to try, and simply give up. (Result! as far as the Greenies are concerned.)

c) Copper is more expensive.

d) Does anyone really believe, when we’ve all been good little boys and changed over to copper, that the next step won’t be to have some compliant scientists announce that copper is even worse for the environment than lead, so we’ve all got to switch to bismuth, or tungsten, or whatever is less available and more expensive? And so on…

Anything that limits our choices is a restriction, and limiting our choices is a ratchet that only turns one way.

maximus otter
 
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