Derbyshire farmer shoots burglars

[bigtone]

Surely a barrel into the air and every burglar for miles would run for the hills.

 

[Dunwaters]

Surely a barrel into the air and every burglar for miles would run for the hills.

Due to the high cost of ammunition we are unable to provide a warning shot….

 

[RescueMe0007]

Due to the high cost of ammunition we are unable to provide a warning shot….

That should be posted on signs around the property, in BIG letters!

 

[RescueMe0007]

But equally in most US Jurisdictions if you shoot somebody you had better be able to show very good reason etc as you will be subject to a full investigation and full weight of the law.

In the UK we don’t permit firearms to be for self defence and carried or to be available as such (except in a few special circumstances and then usually in the service of the crown). When not in use our laws require firearms to be kept securely locked away.

I suspect the law would look very differently if you took out a shotgun to go and investigate a noise in the barns, to a gang brandishing AK 47s, already discharging rounds into the farm house and was now trying to break in.

True, but the presumption is that the property owner is entitled to stand their ground and defend themselves. When a person loses their life, there ought very correctly to be a thorough investigation of the circumstances and evidence. Fortunately, in this jurisdiction we moved in the right direction a number of years ago, due to a high number of instances where seniors were being accosted and battered in their homes by thugs seeking their life savings. As a result such instances have significantly decreased, odd that!

 

[Dunwaters]

That should be posted on signs around the property, in BIG letters!

You should definitely not do that.
Given the shitstorm that is likely to descend on your head if you do have recourse to lethal force, you’ll probably need to be able to demonstrate that you honestly believed that you were in danger.
If it was me, I don’t think I’d be wasting half my ammunition supply on scare tactics.
You can always fire the warning shot once the threat is neutralised

 

[Bavarianbrit]

You should definitely not do that.
Given the shitstorm that is likely to descend on your head if you do have recourse to lethal force, you’ll probably need to be able to demonstrate that you honestly believed that you were in danger.
If it was me, I don’t think I’d be wasting half my ammunition supply on scare tactics.
You can always fire the warning shot once the threat is neutralised

I read somewhere that forensics can define if it was the first or subsequent shots that were lethal.
BTW____ MAKE MY DAY comes to mind.

 

[willowbank]

Due to the high cost of ammunition we are unable to provide a warning shot….

Excellent.... there’s a business there in providing signs.

WB

 

[willowbank]

That should be posted on signs around the property, in BIG letters!

Local farmer (real story) put up a sign saying, ‘trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again’ the police made him take it down....

WB

 

[75]

Local farmer (real story) put up a sign saying, ‘trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again’ the police made him take it down....

WB

Same sign still up on a farm I shoot on - been there for years. Sign is right next to a very, very well used public footpath (and is about 5 miles from the event which is subject of this thread).

 

[RescueMe0007]

You should definitely not do that.
Given the shitstorm that is likely to descend on your head if you do have recourse to lethal force, you’ll probably need to be able to demonstrate that you honestly believed that you were in danger.
If it was me, I don’t think I’d be wasting half my ammunition supply on scare tactics.
You can always fire the warning shot once the threat is neutralised

Yes, I know I was being provocative and a little facetious!

 

[Apthorpe]

Several years ago now I went hunting pigs in Texas, one evening talking with my guide and we got onto the subject of protection of property, he was both astonished and mortified that in the UK if someone uninvited enters your property you didn't have the right to send them to their mamaker.

Had an acquaintance who shot someone (non fatally but painfully) for attempted sheep rustling and was congratulated by the police in France. The British attitude is wet in the extreme.

 

[bobt]

a friends son caught 2 blokes breaking in, he hit one with a cricket bat, then chased and caught the second one,
he was arrested for assault, ok then let off,
he mentioned that he didn`t have access to a shotgun as it was in another room,
the local bobby said " if you shoot someone don`t ring the police,drop the body well away, we will find them"

 

[Brad93]

Typical reporting, he must have just wandered into that farmhouse at 1:30 in the morning by accident with his pal - lovely and polite.

Meanwhile, tributes have been paid to Marcus on social media. He's been described as the 'loveliest boy' and 'sweet and polite', and someone who 'lit up every room he entered'.

 

[jimmer.13]

Typical reporting, he must have just wandered into that farmhouse at 1:30 in the morning by accident with his pal - lovely and polite.

He certainly got “Lit up” the last room he entered

 

[sy247]

The flip side of the coin

Canterbury: Man charged with murder after farm death

A 51-year-old man was pronounced dead at a farm in Chartham, near Canterbury, on Sunday.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[75]

The flip side of the coin

Canterbury: Man charged with murder after farm death

A 51-year-old man was pronounced dead at a farm in Chartham, near Canterbury, on Sunday.

www.bbc.co.uk

Standard procedure - arrested on "suspicion" of murder. Same as happened with the farmer in Derbyshire (who has since been bailed).

 

[sy247]

Standard procedure - arrested on "suspicion" of murder. Same as happened with the farmer in Derbyshire (who has since been bailed).

In this case it appears the land owner has died and the burgler has been arrested.

 

[75]

Apologies @sy247 - misunderstood the "flip side of the coin" bit.

 

[DesG]

"Better to judged by twelve than carried by six." Winston Churchill.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

"Better to judged by twelve than carried by six." Winston Churchill.

You would need more than six to carry that old boozer.