Which is the best digi scope

Personally I don't notice the weight .
It's the gamebag full of rabbits that's the problem 🤣
You must notice it. It's an incredible scope. The image is sensational. But it is a lump.

I'm annoyed at myself about it - for too long I had varmint profile t3x with lightweight NVs & complain too heavy. Now I've a lighter 204 and I've gone and put over 1kg on top of it!! Should have just got arken Zulus in first place..

Also going to change my wildcat evolution for either a F&D or a hausken mini.
 
You must notice it. It's an incredible scope. The image is sensational. But it is a lump.

I'm annoyed at myself about it - for too long I had varmint profile t3x with lightweight NVs & complain too heavy. Now I've a lighter 204 and I've gone and put over 1kg on top of it!! Should have just got arken Zulus in first place..

Also going to change my wildcat evolution for either a F&D or a hausken mini.
No when you consider I am also carrying thermal , sticks and bag of rabbits I don’t notice the weight.
My .22/250 is heavier than the HMR but I'm still carrying Foxpro, thermal and sticks and walk a lot of miles.
Why is weight of scope an issue ?
 
No when you consider I am also carrying thermal , sticks and bag of rabbits I don’t notice the weight.
My .22/250 is heavier than the HMR but I'm still carrying Foxpro, thermal and sticks and walk a lot of miles.
Why is weight of scope an issue ?
For exactly that reason!!

I'm carrying all the same, walking miles after already walking miles all day. But it's not so much the carrying that bothers me, I can lift all day. I notice it when it comes to shouldering or getting up on sticks. It's made my 204 unnecessarily heavier. Any weight saving is a blessing.
 
There's nothing you can shoot with an Alpex 4kLRF (plus IR and adjustable mount) that can't be shot with a Zulus 520R, so if weight is a consideration then the Zulus wins every time
I have not yet had a chance to handle or look through the new DNT4k scope but the photographs I've seen of it seem to indicate a smaller diameter objective lens than the Alpex4k
Assuming the same (or very similar) sensor is used in both scopes it seems likely that the DNT will have a bit more base magnification the the Alpex but will not retain a usable colour image for as long as the Alpex4k
Hopefully we'll be getting our hands on a DNT 4k before long to do some serious testing and only then will we be able to give definitive answers to the questions which will certainly be asked

Cheers

Bruce
 
Hold on Tight, the DNT Tube 4k is near being launched, I was checking this out t the Shooting show, I spent quite a bit of time comparing it to the Alpex 4K and for me the DNT had a clearer picture it was definitely lighter although that's not a deal breaker and as i understand it will be less expensive than the Alpex, I had a ALpex 4k on my shopping list, but I'm waiting for the DNT Tube
 
There's nothing you can shoot with an Alpex 4kLRF (plus IR and adjustable mount) that can't be shot with a Zulus 520R, so if weight is a consideration then the Zulus wins every time
I have not yet had a chance to handle or look through the new DNT4k scope but the photographs I've seen of it seem to indicate a smaller diameter objective lens than the Alpex4k
Assuming the same (or very similar) sensor is used in both scopes it seems likely that the DNT will have a bit more base magnification the the Alpex but will not retain a usable colour image for as long as the Alpex4k
Hopefully we'll be getting our hands on a DNT 4k before long to do some serious testing and only then will we be able to give definitive answers to the questions which will certainly be asked

Cheers

Bruce
Thanks Bruce. Main reason I went for Alpex was I wanted to mount direct onto dovetail but I've ended up having to put a pic rail on anyway!! 😣 So think I'll swap Alpex for Zulus.
 
For exactly that reason!!

I'm carrying all the same, walking miles after already walking miles all day. But it's not so much the carrying that bothers me, I can lift all day. I notice it when it comes to shouldering or getting up on sticks. It's made my 204 unnecessarily heavier. Any weight saving is a blessing.
Ben as you know i've been a big fan of the Zulus, owning and using 3 for over a year so it’s fair to say i know them inside out.
Before christmas i bought a second hand Alpex 4K to see what the differences were and to satisfy the “itch”. I now have 2 4K’s one on my foxing rife and one on my stalking rifle. The Zulus have been relegated to the rimfires.
This is my findings.
First thing and it makes a big difference, the tubed design does give a better head
position/cheekweld it sits a lot lower to the rifle, also regardless of what people say a tubed design is far more robust than a scope hanging off the rifle connected by a few inches of mount onto a picatinny rail.
The Zulus is a great scope but its not without it’s negatives, the zoom dial really isn’t that user friendly, and the button layout the same, especially wearing gloves that i gave up on.
An aftermarket IR isnt a bad thing, all three Zulus ive owned the built in IR hasn’t lined up correctly all have been too low and out in the windage, something you just live with. A torch bolted on gives you much more versatility and you can position the beam as it should be with most of the beam above the center line of your cross hairs to give maximum throw and avoid white out that the Zulus suffers from pretty badly.
The low light performance is far far superior on the Alpex, not only can you shoot foxes without ir on a clear night as you know, you can also see enough of them when there’s just enough ambient light to be able to set up for the shot and have them in the scope before lighting them up, makes for a less hurried shot.
The display is far nicer on the Alpex and the reticle choice is far superior, personally ive always liked a G4 type with the tiny red cross within stadia, this is something the Zulus lacks and i did enquire about it being included but they can’t please everyone and the reticle choice is poor, having looked at the new 4K Zulus it looks like the same, on that basis i wouldn’t buy one for that reason alone.
Not a deal breaker but the one shot record works every time.
A 4K teamed up with the Wraith ESL has far more range giving a better image over 200yds especially in poor conditions.
Compared to the Alpex the Zulus sensor is inferior, doesn’t deal
with white out well and i found myself having to “dip” the rifle sometimes to kick start the sensor into action.
For a foxing scope the Alpex is the kiddy in my experience in using both for some time.
 
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Ben as you know i've been a big fan of the Zulus, owning and using 3 for over a year so it’s fair to say i know them inside out.
Before christmas i bought a second hand Alpex 4K to see what the differences were and to satisfy the “itch”. I now have 2 4K’s one on my foxing rife and one on my stalking rifle. The Zulus have been relegated to the rimfires.
This is my findings.
First thing and it makes a big difference, the tubed design does give a better head
position/cheekweld it sits a lot lower to the rifle, also regardless of what people say a tubed design is far more robust than a scope hanging off the rifle connected by a few inches of mount onto a picatinny rail.
The Zulus is a great scope but its not without it’s negatives, the zoom dial really isn’t that user friendly, and the button layout the same, especially wearing gloves that i gave up on.
An aftermarket IR isnt a bad thing, all three Zulus ive owned the built in IR hasn’t lined up correctly all have been too low and out in the windage, something you just live with. A torch bolted on gives you much more versatility and you can position the beam as it should be with most of the beam above the center line of your cross hairs to give maximum throw and avoid white out that the Zulus suffers from pretty badly.
The low light performance is far far superior on the Alpex, not only can you shoot foxes without ir on a clear night as you know, you can also see enough of them when there’s just enough ambient light to be able to set up for the shot and have them in the scope before lighting them up, makes for a less hurried shot.
The display is far nicer on the Alpex and the reticle choice is far superior, personally ive always liked a G4 type with the tiny red cross within stadia, this is something the Zulus lacks and i did enquire about it being included but they can’t please everyone and the reticle choice is poor, having looked at the new 4K Zulus it looks like the same, on that basis i wouldn’t buy one for that reason alone.
Not a deal breaker but the one shot record works every time.
A 4K teamed up with the Wraith ESL has far more range giving a better image over 200yds especially in poor conditions.
Compared to the Alpex the Zulus sensor is inferior, doesn’t deal
with white out well and i found myself having to “dip” the rifle sometimes to kick start the sensor into action.
For a foxing scope the Alpex is the kiddy in my experience in using both for some time.
Cheers mate, respect your real world opinions. I'm not doubting it's ability, I've been amazed by it, especially what I can see with no ir at all.
 
White out ?🤔

My zulu been the best scope I've had to deal with white out ... simply put the IR on auto and it's worked out to 200yds and it's not misaligned it an spot bang on money
Leave IR on auto and forget about it ...can't say I've had white out

Paul
 
White out ?🤔

My zulu been the best scope I've had to deal with white out ... simply put the IR on auto and it's worked out to 200yds and it's not misaligned it an spot bang on money
Leave IR on auto and forget about it ...can't say I've had white out

Paul
White out probably not the best term, the Zulus doesn’t seem to deal with illuminated foreground as well as the Alpex does whether its close quarters or longer range, like i say on occasion ive had to dip the rifle so the sensor does its job, something ive not needed to do with the Alpex, it seems far slicker.
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For exactly that reason!!

I'm carrying all the same, walking miles after already walking miles all day. But it's not so much the carrying that bothers me, I can lift all day. I notice it when it comes to shouldering or getting up on sticks. It's made my 204 unnecessarily heavier. Any weight saving is a blessing.
Keep the Hik 4k and get an IR head torch that's your problem sorted Ben🤣
 
I LOVE my Alpex 4K.

Ballistic Calc
Easy to Zero
Easy to use
Auto record
App connection
Ability to swap between rifles with different profiles
Good clarity

However…
The clarity I get from my relatively inexpensive Element Optics scope, with a NV add on is still superior!
 
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