Where do you stand in regards to Hind Stalking Late?

[Brittany boy]

Last week of Mar is late in the season. Appreciate it may not be appealing to have a large feotus but just part of process of deer control.

This is a picture taken late march gives you an idea of what to expect. If the image is too graffic can a moderator please delete

 

[Chris Richardson]

This is a picture taken late march gives you an idea of what to expect. If the image is too graffic can a moderator please delete

Not a problem with that

 

[HonestJohn]

15th Feb. That’s where it ends in my book.

 

[Foxshot]

Shoot them up to the last minute of the last day of the season, infact they could bring it forward a month would’ve handy

I’m starting to wonder why people take up deer management, it’s almost like people don’t have the stomach for it.

So people who don’t like shooting deer late in the season don’t have the stomach for deer management, but this is coming from someone who gets his knickers in a knot about using an ir torch to shoot deer within legal hours?! you sure are a contradictory character

 

[Bowland blades]

Totally depends on the reason / reasons your shooting those deer.

 

[Chris Richardson]

15th Feb. That’s where it ends in my book.

Why that exact date ?

 

[HonestJohn]

Why that exact date ?

It’s the end of the hind season in Scotland

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

So people who don’t like shooting deer late in the season don’t have the stomach for deer management, but this is coming from someone who gets his knickers in a knot about using an ir torch to shoot deer within legal hours?! you sure are a contradictory character

I am someone who doesn’t shoot late because if you **** it up your not going to trudge about in the dark pushing wounded deer over boundaries.

Tracked far too many **** ups through people’s inability to shoot straight at very last knocking.

The last one was 5km crossed 2 boundaries and its bones now lay over the 3rd as we couldn’t get permission to cross.

That’s why morally using an IR torch is not ethical

 

[RCS Deer Management]

Tracked far too many **** ups through people’s inability to shoot straight at very last knocking.

With a decent ir and nv they would see better, preventing as many poor shots.

 

[Sol]

March? Probably I dont understand the problem with shooting pregnant females coming from a women I've said it before and I'll say It again I really do think Its people own moral views on humans that is then transferred to game species (Dont get your panties in a twist, no reason for this forum to be moved too politics)

What's the difference? Really Shoot a female animal your taking a extra life regardless, in the case of roe there's a high chance your taking two perhaps even more!

If your truly upset by the gralloch containing a somewhat developed fetus why are you shooting? You would Imagine I would be the most Ick'd one out there being a women gralloching but I cant say Its actually ever bothered me one bit.

Literally only thing I had done for me the first deer I shot the person(s) that took me out shooting quickly carted off the gralloch before I could see the bag.
I asked what they were doing and they said "So you dont see the wee ones" and whilst I never bothered too look but the same time wasn't that concerned I realised that came with shooting deer

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

March? Probably I dont understand the problem with shooting pregnant females coming from a women I've said it before and I'll say It again I really do think Its people own moral views on humans that is then transferred to game species (Dont get your panties in a twist, no reason for this forum to be moved too politics)

What's the difference? Really Shoot a female animal your taking a extra life regardless, in the case of roe there's a high chance your taking two perhaps even more!

If your truly upset by the gralloch containing a somewhat developed fetus why are you shooting? You would Imagine I would be the most Ick'd one out there being a women gralloching but I cant say Its actually ever bothered me one bit.

Literally only thing I had done for me the first deer I shot the person(s) that took me out shooting quickly carted off the gralloch before I could see the bag.
I asked what they were doing and they said "So you dont see the wee ones" and whilst I never bothered too look but the same time wasn't that concerned I realised that came with shooting deer

amen

Hells bells vicar! A female stalker with more balls than most male stalkers!

 

[Chris Richardson]

It’s the end of the hind season in Scotland

Sorry always assumed you were in England hence the confusion

 

[HonestJohn]

Sorry always assumed you were in England hence the confusion

I will be if we get a Scottish independence yes vote!!!

 

[Mike1979]

This is a picture taken late march gives you an idea of what to expect. If the image is too graffic can a moderator please delete

I know what to expect as I have shot does up until the end of March and have no issues with it

 

[Mike1979]

It isn't odd at all, it's quite normal, not least as we have evolved to nurture young animals, reinforced by lots of adverts, films, literature etc. I've seen examples of this all the time. Professional slaughtermen who won't be with a dog that is put to sleep, is one example. And, if you have a reasonable understanding of biology and know that the blood still contains oxygen even if the dam is killed, the foetus could still be alive. And it maybe, but it's likely it will not suffer.

Not sure I fully agree with your logic but understand the point. Comparing the loss of a pet to gralloching a doe with a large foetus is somewhat strange but each to their own I suppose if it upsets people then shoot the does up until the point that you are happy then call it a day...but this limits the opportunities.

 

[25 Sharps]

When it comes to roe does i will stop shooting pregnant does soon after xmas, if your finding yourself shooting pregnant roe does well into march i think you have to ask yourself what your doing. Youve had months to get ontop of them and lets face it a couple of extra roe kicking around on your ground arnt exactly going to decimate the place and maybe some stalkers shouldnt be hinding behind the problems that say parts of scotland have with massive swaves of reds just to justify there want/need to kill a animal in march

On the flip side, some people don’t start on roe does until after Christmas to allow the followers to gain any kind of carcass weight but also better chance of survival if you don’t manage to pick them up with the doe.

Roe does are pregnant for the whole season so I personally don’t see the difference shooting one with a small foetus or a large foetus, but me result is exactly the same.

 

[Sol]

That I do existing fawns take priority over unborn ones, Its been a fantastic year here but I reckon they need another month at least first.

 

[coldboremiracle]

This is an interesting topic. I usually hunt during our late season which often goes into january, and I too have found fetal fawns like the above picture. I don't like the strange grisly aspect of it either, even tho there is effectively no difference to gutting a cow/hind in October (at least for the elk I hunt here), as they are already pregnant. I often times have resulted to shooting yearling calf's, as they haven't mated. I figure if i shoot the calf I am only killing one, whereas if I shoot her pregnant mother I am killing her and the calf that would be born in the spring. It really is a strange situation as the whole point of these hunts is to lower the population of the overall herd. Something I am not really in favor of anyhow.

Here is the last calf I shot, which is still plenty large enough for my freezer:

 

[Anser anser]

my pennysworth ,Im not quite sure what having balls ,tough guy ,being a proper deer manager etc etc have to do with an individuals normally functioning moral compass. I reckon we have all had to remove an unborn late on at some time, Its not weak,girly or anything else derogatory,i'd suggest, to feel uncomfortable if/when this happens, its rather,i'd suggest,simply being human .