DEFRA consultation on banning trail hunting.

Siggy

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please could people take time to review this. In my opinion the use of dogs to follow up wounded deer will remain legal under the section 1 of the hunting with dogs act 2004 but there is a risk that we will no long be able to lay blood trails to train our dogs. Obviously untrained dogs are going to be less effective so this is an unintended consequence which will have profound welfare impact.

I believe we need a specific exemption to allow us to train dogs

Secondly we need to avoid legislation that tightens up the requirement that dogs they need to be "under control" already defined but the Hunting with Dogs act 2004 - dogs need to be able to work independently when they are following up highly mobile deer -e.g. leg shot/head shot or in thick or dangerous terrain - e.g steep clear fell or blackthorn/bramble scrub.
(Ideally we would have a revision of the 2004 act which would allow deer stalkers dogs to work independently without direct control but I think that is too much to ask for.)
 
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please could people take time to review this. In my opinion the use of dogs to follow up wounded deer will remain legal under the section 1 of the hunting with dogs act 2004 but there is a risk that we will no long be able to lay blood trails to train our dogs. Obviously untrained dogs are going to be less effective so this is an unintended consequence which will have profound welfare impact.

I believe we need a specific exemption to allow us to train dogs

Secondly we need to avoid legislation that tightens up the requirement that dogs they need to be "under control" already defined but the Hunting with Dogs act 2004 - dogs need to be able to work independently when they are following up highly mobile deer -e.g. leg shot/head shot or in thick or dangerous terrain - e.g steep clear fell or blackthorn/bramble scrub.
(Ideally we would have a revision of the 2004 act which would allow deer stalkers dogs to work independently without direct control but I think that is too much to ask for.)
Another thread on here already on this.

Also, even training a dog on actually injured/running deer would arguably be using animal scent for training. It could become impossible to use dogs at all. That on top of impacts in other areas such as conservation (pest detection).
 
Another thread on here already on this.

Also, even training a dog on actually injured/running deer would arguably be using animal scent for training. It could become impossible to use dogs at all. That on top of impacts in other areas such as conservation (pest detection).
hi,
there is a thread about the proposal from 27-Dec and one about the petition, but I believe this is the first one about the actual consultation which came out yesterday.
 
hi,
there is a thread about the proposal from 27-Dec and one about the petition, but I believe this is the first one about the actual consultation which came out yesterday.
Consultation is linked in the other one but TBH more mentions gets this a higher profile.
 
They don’t want anyone to work dogs on wild animals
Thin end of the wedge don’t think the rabid anti thinks your doing deer a favour finding it with a dog due to a badly placed shot 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Don’t want to be defeatist but that all a can see for the future
Ffs they banning greyhound racing in wales
 
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