"All Gun licences to be digitised under new Palantir deal to run national firearms database"

[HonestJohn]

If you think you can have a SM account and not disclose it because ‘how would they know?!’. Wrong! Their AI will quickly find you sold a scope to some bloke, and you disclosed (even by PM), your address name, he’ll, even just phone number. It will find it and match it up. Revocation follows for failure to disclose

 

[timbrayford]

The tender docs don’t go into a lot of detail but the scope is to allow forces to record the grant of licences, not to facilitate it. So whatever the current application process is for a particular force is, that continues, but the results are recorded in the new palantir system instead of the legacy NFLMS


Risk analysis on a database of firearms owners doesn’t flag risks from people who aren’t on the database; the problem palantir solves is the guy in Plymouth, not the guy in Oxford

Would it not have flagged up that the fake certificate did not exist? To draw a parallel with retail banking simply printing a fake credit or debit card gets you nowhere .

 

[Deerhunter22]

One thing I do want to know is, if Gun license will be digital. Will this remove the need for 141’s, could it open the door to owning whatever you want up to say .308 anything over needs checked out
Just questions

 

[Demetrius]

One thing you can rely on is that it will be hackable.......probably by kids.

D.

 

[HonestJohn]

One thing I do want to know is, if Gun license will be digital. Will this remove the need for 141’s, could it open the door to owning whatever you want up to say .308 anything over needs checked out
Just questions

Never

 

[Deerhunter22]

Never

Nah I know the answer but it’s nice to dream

 

[HonestJohn]

One thing you can rely on is that it will be hackable.......probably by kids.

D.

Yes, and start issue licenses to all sorts, right out of the police’s own mailroom!

Why rob the penthouse when the mailroom is on the ground floor - guess the movie ?

 

[timbrayford]

One thing I do want to know is, if Gun license will be digital. Will this remove the need for 141’s, could it open the door to owning whatever you want up to say .308 anything over needs checked out
Just questions

More to the point, as far as the 1920 Act and subsequent amendments go it needs a major overhaul and streamlining, if you contrast s 2 with the more bureaucratic s1 the differences between the two haven't been proved to make a jot of difference to public safety.

 

[Deerhunter22]

More to the point, as far as the 1920 Act and subsequent amendments go it needs a major overhaul and streamlining, if you contrast s 2 with the more bureaucratic s1 the differences between the two haven't been proved to make a jot of difference to public safety.

So should Sec 2 become Sec 1 or the other way around

 

[Leec6.5]

Am I the only one who doesn’t give 2 hoots?

They can do what they like as long as I’m legal, really that’s all that matters.

 

[Kentish]

Would it not have flagged up that the fake certificate did not exist? To draw a parallel with retail banking simply printing a fake credit or debit card gets you nowhere .

I don’t know the details of the Oxford/luton guy but either a) he used a valid cert number in which case as far as the police were concerned the gun was on a valid cert, or b) it was totally fake in which case the police should have noticed as part of the existing process that the cert was not valid when they processed the advice from the vendor that he had disposed of it. In neither case would it have stopped the perp buying the gun because it was a private face to face sale as far as I’m aware.

A fully end-to-end digitised system with a proper digital FAC that links RFDs to the database and processes transactions in real time would be great for users and reduce possibility of fraud at RFDs, but there’s nothing to suggest that is in the scope of this project.

 

[timbrayford]

So should Sec 2 become Sec 1 or the other way around

Sec 2 works fine enough

 

[timbrayford]

I don’t know the details of the Oxford/luton guy but either a) he used a valid cert number in which case as far as the police were concerned the gun was on a valid cert, or b) it was totally fake in which case the police should have noticed as part of the existing process that the cert was not valid when they processed the advice from the vendor that he had disposed of it. In neither case would it have stopped the perp buying the gun because it was a private face to face sale as far as I’m aware.

A fully end-to-end digitised system with a proper digital FAC that links RFDs to the database and processes transactions in real time would be great for users and reduce possibility of fraud at RFDs, but there’s nothing to suggest that is in the scope of this project.

In short the guy photoshopped a certificate to buy a shotgun in a private transaction and went on to kill within the 7 day notice period. The vendor follwed the correct procedure. Police activity didn't come into it because fac/sgc legislation is only relevant to circumstances that existed over 100 years ago

 

[Leec6.5]

You lot are clucking like a load of OAP hens

We now live in the digital age, not in the Stone Age!

 

[Deerhunter22]

Am I the only one who doesn’t give 2 hoots?

They can do what they like as long as I’m legal, really that’s all that matters.

I mean I care, I care because some American big tech company is going to have the sensitive data of not just firearms licensing but NHS and other administrative things which are highly sensitive oh and the dude who owns this company looks, acts and talks literally like a complete psychopath
Something very unhinged in the guy very very unhinged

 

[Leec6.5]

I mean I care, I care because some American big tech company is going to have the sensitive data of not just firearms licensing but NHS and other administrative things which are highly sensitive oh and the dude who owns this company looks, acts and talks literally like a complete psychopath
Something very unhinged in the guy very very unhinged

You’re thinking too much!

As long as all your T’s are crossed etc and your legal what’s the worry?

If it all goes tits up, it’s their problem not ours and as long as you’ve got your arse covered there’s nothing g to worry about.

 

[long_range_rob]

Zuckerburg position on Meta is good for kids is like the old days when smoking was good. There are old articles when alcohol was a beneficial health beverage.
They'll argue its the best thing that ever happened to society all the way too the highest court. Despite known in-house evidence proving the damage.

What! You mean alcohol ISN’T good for you

 

[Leec6.5]

You lot read too much on the internet!

I don’t read the or watch the news,I don’t do FB or other social platforms apart from the SD!

I live by hillbilly rules and that suits me.

 

[Deerhunter22]

You’re thinking too much!

As long as all your T’s are crossed etc and your legal what’s the worry?

If it all goes tits up, it’s their problem not ours and as long as you’ve got your arse covered there’s nothing g to worry about.

Fair point

 

[Deerhunter22]

You lot read too much on the internet!

I don’t read the or watch the news,I don’t do FB or other social platforms apart from the SD!

I live by hillbilly rules and that suits me.

So no licensed guns then