Breaking in a new rifle...?

BunnyDoom

Well-Known Member
Just wondering how people break in their barrels? I've had a look on youtube and they reccomend:
1. clean the barrel before taking a shot, then take 5 shots cleaning after each and every shot
2. Shoot 5 shot groups, cleaning after each and every 5 shots until 50 shots have been fired
3. Your rifle is now bedded in...?

Thoughts would be appreciated as am going to get a new gun soon - just been made redundant but luckily have the holy grail of partners: "it's ok hun we can live off my wage - if you want to take some time out and re-train then I'll support us, and use some of our savings to buy your gun, we'll just tighten our belts elswhere" :thumb: Must marry her ASAP!!!

 
I'm not Larry Potterfield... :D

Most advice talks about numbers, but it's always best to be clear on what you are looking to achieve and act accordingly. every barrel - even from same maker can be different.

The break-in process is looking to apply a finish to the bore. Some argue it is a polish, others that they are sealing pores and imperfections. The reality ( as usual ) is a bit of both. And that's not leave out those who believe it to be a waste of time!

From dealing with hundreds of rifles, I believe it is worth doing.

At the outset, keep in mind it is possible to wear out/ damage a bore faster by incorrect 'cleaning' than by shooting.

Good kit pays for itself time after time. There's lots of good kit and some bad kit out there. I use Dewey rods - they work for me and they are my go to rod. We sell them, because I use them - not the other way round - but be aware of that bias on my part. There are plenty of other good rods. Look for a good bearing system, no exposed steel, a good cover/sheathing - or appropriate rod material. Avoid jointed rods as your main system - most have some flex and risk bore contact. Keep all rods clean and free from grit.

Bore guides are a good idea - you want them to centre the rod, minimise scraping in the bolt -way, avoid throat damage and rod to rifling contact. Not least it helps if they assist in stopping solvent leaking into the action & stock. Possum Hollow tick all my boxes - if someone can let me know why they seem impossible to get just now I'd be grateful - we've a number on backorder since May and Possum Hollow won't answer my e mails & calls! In that vein - if anyone knows of a good small batch plastic tube extruder/ turning company in NE Scotland we are seriously looking at getting something made.

To stop solvent leak it needs to be a good fit - or have a suitable o ring seal - as per Possum Hollow ( which is what Larry uses )

A good bore solvent - again there are lots to choose from. I like Butch's Bore Shine, Tetra, Shooters Choice - there are others. For Copper removal I like Forrest Foam. Wipe out is popular on here - seems to work just fine.

Good jag and patches - prefer spear type - as supplied with Dewey rod. Patch drops off at muzzle.

Brushes - prefer nylon to brass. We are using a copper/brass solvent, its going to attack a brass brush, re-depositing the very stuff we are trying to get out. The centre spine should be something softer than the bore and finished in a tight loop rather than cut with exposed ends - risking scratches. Nylon works well.

All brushes are grit magnets - they should be cleaned well after use and stored in a clean container. Brake cleaner is a good way to neutralise the solvent on the brush. Forget specialist shooting solvents - brake cleaner from Halfords is cheaper. Or if in my line of work buy it by the 5 litre can from an autofactor!

Some form of cradle makes life easier - sand bags or a slotted cardboard box does the same job as a specialist shooter clamp/vice/ rest.


Take new rifle. Strip and clean/ relube. Set it in your vice/ box/ stuffed Larry Potterfield etc.

Fit bore guide. Run a couple of solvent wet patches through the bore and give it a minute. Wet patch again, then run dry patches through. If they come out spotless, you're done. If getting grey/ black streaks then try either a patch of brake cleaner or the nylon brush through a bore solvent wet barrel.

Can be a pain, but do until you get a dry white patch out.

Remove bore guide and carefully wipe out chamber.

Fire first shot. Pause to marvel at what a great rifle you bought ;)

Repeat the above. This time as you push the cleaning rod up the bore, let it feedback to you what's going on.

Likely it'll be harder to push than the first time. There's a good chance you feel particular resistance about 7-9" ahead of the chamber.

You need to get the barrel back to pristine. Give the solvent time to work. When you think you are there, hold the final white, dry patch about an inch short of the muzzle and have a close look in bright light. If you see any streaks, keep going.

This is the impractical bit for those without ready range access. Have a read of the notes on the Border Barrels website - they leave Bore Foam in overnight - effectively firing one shot a day. That simply may not work for most people time wise.

Very careful and thats VERY - use of JB compound can speed things a little. But far better to allow chemical rather than mechanical action to shift the fouling.

Fire second shot. Repeat as above. This time there will likely be an easier push through the barrel. It wont be perfect, but it will get easier - if not this time, then at some point over the first 5-7 rounds.

Repeat process for at least first ten rounds - it will make a difference.

Given freehand and time, I will do this over however long it takes. Until the point is reached where I can tell by experience that the rod 'feels right'. Smoothly going up the entire length of the bore. Check with white patch at this stage and there should be very minimal or non existent streaks. Dry, the bore should be starting to look polished.

Most Tikkas/Sako/Howa its between 8-14 rounds in total. Sauers/ Blaser tend to be there within 5-6 rounds.

Brownings/ Ruger/ Remington - 15-20.

Thereafter repeat after every 5 rounds for at least two cycles.

A lot of effort? Yep - but you are investing up front. Think of the ammo you'll save in the long run - many rifles will behave without needing a fouling shot after proper break-in. Cleaning will tend to be a couple of wet patches, wait 15 minutes, final wet patch and three dry and you're done.

Many will disagree - that's fine. I often have to abridge this process with clients collecting new rifles - where ( understandably ) they want to be the first to shoot it. Even abridged, they can feel the difference and the improvement over 5 or 6 rounds.

Let us know how you get on.
 
I'm not Larry Potterfield... :D

Most advice talks about numbers, but it's always best to be clear on what you are looking to achieve and act accordingly. every barrel - even from same maker can be different.

The break-in process is looking to apply a finish to the bore. Some argue it is a polish, others that they are sealing pores and imperfections. The reality ( as usual ) is a bit of both. And that's not leave out those who believe it to be a waste of time!

From dealing with hundreds of rifles, I believe it is worth doing.

At the outset, keep in mind it is possible to wear out/ damage a bore faster by incorrect 'cleaning' than by shooting.

Good kit pays for itself time after time. There's lots of good kit and some bad kit out there. I use Dewey rods - they work for me and they are my go to rod. We sell them, because I use them - not the other way round - but be aware of that bias on my part. There are plenty of other good rods. Look for a good bearing system, no exposed steel, a good cover/sheathing - or appropriate rod material. Avoid jointed rods as your main system - most have some flex and risk bore contact. Keep all rods clean and free from grit.

Bore guides are a good idea - you want them to centre the rod, minimise scraping in the bolt -way, avoid throat damage and rod to rifling contact. Not least it helps if they assist in stopping solvent leaking into the action & stock. Possum Hollow tick all my boxes - if someone can let me know why they seem impossible to get just now I'd be grateful - we've a number on backorder since May and Possum Hollow won't answer my e mails & calls! In that vein - if anyone knows of a good small batch plastic tube extruder/ turning company in NE Scotland we are seriously looking at getting something made.

To stop solvent leak it needs to be a good fit - or have a suitable o ring seal - as per Possum Hollow ( which is what Larry uses )

A good bore solvent - again there are lots to choose from. I like Butch's Bore Shine, Tetra, Shooters Choice - there are others. For Copper removal I like Forrest Foam. Wipe out is popular on here - seems to work just fine.

Good jag and patches - prefer spear type - as supplied with Dewey rod. Patch drops off at muzzle.

Brushes - prefer nylon to brass. We are using a copper/brass solvent, its going to attack a brass brush, re-depositing the very stuff we are trying to get out. The centre spine should be something softer than the bore and finished in a tight loop rather than cut with exposed ends - risking scratches. Nylon works well.

All brushes are grit magnets - they should be cleaned well after use and stored in a clean container. Brake cleaner is a good way to neutralise the solvent on the brush. Forget specialist shooting solvents - brake cleaner from Halfords is cheaper. Or if in my line of work buy it by the 5 litre can from an autofactor!

Some form of cradle makes life easier - sand bags or a slotted cardboard box does the same job as a specialist shooter clamp/vice/ rest.


Take new rifle. Strip and clean/ relube. Set it in your vice/ box/ stuffed Larry Potterfield etc.

Fit bore guide. Run a couple of solvent wet patches through the bore and give it a minute. Wet patch again, then run dry patches through. If they come out spotless, you're done. If getting grey/ black streaks then try either a patch of brake cleaner or the nylon brush through a bore solvent wet barrel.

Can be a pain, but do until you get a dry white patch out.

Remove bore guide and carefully wipe out chamber.

Fire first shot. Pause to marvel at what a great rifle you bought ;)

Repeat the above. This time as you push the cleaning rod up the bore, let it feedback to you what's going on.

Likely it'll be harder to push than the first time. There's a good chance you feel particular resistance about 7-9" ahead of the chamber.

You need to get the barrel back to pristine. Give the solvent time to work. When you think you are there, hold the final white, dry patch about an inch short of the muzzle and have a close look in bright light. If you see any streaks, keep going.

This is the impractical bit for those without ready range access. Have a read of the notes on the Border Barrels website - they leave Bore Foam in overnight - effectively firing one shot a day. That simply may not work for most people time wise.

Very careful and thats VERY - use of JB compound can speed things a little. But far better to allow chemical rather than mechanical action to shift the fouling.

Fire second shot. Repeat as above. This time there will likely be an easier push through the barrel. It wont be perfect, but it will get easier - if not this time, then at some point over the first 5-7 rounds.

Repeat process for at least first ten rounds - it will make a difference.

Given freehand and time, I will do this over however long it takes. Until the point is reached where I can tell by experience that the rod 'feels right'. Smoothly going up the entire length of the bore. Check with white patch at this stage and there should be very minimal or non existent streaks. Dry, the bore should be starting to look polished.

Most Tikkas/Sako/Howa its between 8-14 rounds in total. Sauers/ Blaser tend to be there within 5-6 rounds.

Brownings/ Ruger/ Remington - 15-20.

Thereafter repeat after every 5 rounds for at least two cycles.

A lot of effort? Yep - but you are investing up front. Think of the ammo you'll save in the long run - many rifles will behave without needing a fouling shot after proper break-in. Cleaning will tend to be a couple of wet patches, wait 15 minutes, final wet patch and three dry and you're done.

Many will disagree - that's fine. I often have to abridge this process with clients collecting new rifles - where ( understandably ) they want to be the first to shoot it. Even abridged, they can feel the difference and the improvement over 5 or 6 rounds.

Let us know how you get on.
Great post:D as i will be picking up a new rebarrelled 17 rem soon.
cheers
dave
 
I'm not Larry Potterfield... :D

Most advice talks about numbers, but it's always best to be clear on what you are looking to achieve and act accordingly. every barrel - even from same maker can be different.

The break-in process is looking to apply a finish to the bore. Some argue it is a polish, others that they are sealing pores and imperfections. The reality ( as usual ) is a bit of both. And that's not leave out those who believe it to be a waste of time!

From dealing with hundreds of rifles, I believe it is worth doing.

At the outset, keep in mind it is possible to wear out/ damage a bore faster by incorrect 'cleaning' than by shooting.

Good kit pays for itself time after time. There's lots of good kit and some bad kit out there. I use Dewey rods - they work for me and they are my go to rod. We sell them, because I use them - not the other way round - but be aware of that bias on my part. There are plenty of other good rods. Look for a good bearing system, no exposed steel, a good cover/sheathing - or appropriate rod material. Avoid jointed rods as your main system - most have some flex and risk bore contact. Keep all rods clean and free from grit.

Bore guides are a good idea - you want them to centre the rod, minimise scraping in the bolt -way, avoid throat damage and rod to rifling contact. Not least it helps if they assist in stopping solvent leaking into the action & stock. Possum Hollow tick all my boxes - if someone can let me know why they seem impossible to get just now I'd be grateful - we've a number on backorder since May and Possum Hollow won't answer my e mails & calls! In that vein - if anyone knows of a good small batch plastic tube extruder/ turning company in NE Scotland we are seriously looking at getting something made.

To stop solvent leak it needs to be a good fit - or have a suitable o ring seal - as per Possum Hollow ( which is what Larry uses )

A good bore solvent - again there are lots to choose from. I like Butch's Bore Shine, Tetra, Shooters Choice - there are others. For Copper removal I like Forrest Foam. Wipe out is popular on here - seems to work just fine.

Good jag and patches - prefer spear type - as supplied with Dewey rod. Patch drops off at muzzle.

Brushes - prefer nylon to brass. We are using a copper/brass solvent, its going to attack a brass brush, re-depositing the very stuff we are trying to get out. The centre spine should be something softer than the bore and finished in a tight loop rather than cut with exposed ends - risking scratches. Nylon works well.

All brushes are grit magnets - they should be cleaned well after use and stored in a clean container. Brake cleaner is a good way to neutralise the solvent on the brush. Forget specialist shooting solvents - brake cleaner from Halfords is cheaper. Or if in my line of work buy it by the 5 litre can from an autofactor!

Some form of cradle makes life easier - sand bags or a slotted cardboard box does the same job as a specialist shooter clamp/vice/ rest.


Take new rifle. Strip and clean/ relube. Set it in your vice/ box/ stuffed Larry Potterfield etc.

Fit bore guide. Run a couple of solvent wet patches through the bore and give it a minute. Wet patch again, then run dry patches through. If they come out spotless, you're done. If getting grey/ black streaks then try either a patch of brake cleaner or the nylon brush through a bore solvent wet barrel.

Can be a pain, but do until you get a dry white patch out.

Remove bore guide and carefully wipe out chamber.

Fire first shot. Pause to marvel at what a great rifle you bought ;)

Repeat the above. This time as you push the cleaning rod up the bore, let it feedback to you what's going on.

Likely it'll be harder to push than the first time. There's a good chance you feel particular resistance about 7-9" ahead of the chamber.

You need to get the barrel back to pristine. Give the solvent time to work. When you think you are there, hold the final white, dry patch about an inch short of the muzzle and have a close look in bright light. If you see any streaks, keep going.

This is the impractical bit for those without ready range access. Have a read of the notes on the Border Barrels website - they leave Bore Foam in overnight - effectively firing one shot a day. That simply may not work for most people time wise.

Very careful and thats VERY - use of JB compound can speed things a little. But far better to allow chemical rather than mechanical action to shift the fouling.

Fire second shot. Repeat as above. This time there will likely be an easier push through the barrel. It wont be perfect, but it will get easier - if not this time, then at some point over the first 5-7 rounds.

Repeat process for at least first ten rounds - it will make a difference.

Given freehand and time, I will do this over however long it takes. Until the point is reached where I can tell by experience that the rod 'feels right'. Smoothly going up the entire length of the bore. Check with white patch at this stage and there should be very minimal or non existent streaks. Dry, the bore should be starting to look polished.

Most Tikkas/Sako/Howa its between 8-14 rounds in total. Sauers/ Blaser tend to be there within 5-6 rounds.

Brownings/ Ruger/ Remington - 15-20.

Thereafter repeat after every 5 rounds for at least two cycles.

A lot of effort? Yep - but you are investing up front. Think of the ammo you'll save in the long run - many rifles will behave without needing a fouling shot after proper break-in. Cleaning will tend to be a couple of wet patches, wait 15 minutes, final wet patch and three dry and you're done.

Many will disagree - that's fine. I often have to abridge this process with clients collecting new rifles - where ( understandably ) they want to be the first to shoot it. Even abridged, they can feel the difference and the improvement over 5 or 6 rounds.

Let us know how you get on.

Thank you so much - what an absolutely superb post, really appreciate the time you obviously took to do this :)

Will let you know how I get on!
 
I'm not Larry Potterfield... :D

Most advice talks about numbers, but it's always best to be clear on what you are looking to achieve and act accordingly. every barrel - even from same maker can be different.

The break-in process is looking to apply a finish to the bore. Some argue it is a polish, others that they are sealing pores and imperfections. The reality ( as usual ) is a bit of both. And that's not leave out those who believe it to be a waste of time!

From dealing with hundreds of rifles, I believe it is worth doing.

At the outset, keep in mind it is possible to wear out/ damage a bore faster by incorrect 'cleaning' than by shooting.

Good kit pays for itself time after time. There's lots of good kit and some bad kit out there. I use Dewey rods - they work for me and they are my go to rod. We sell them, because I use them - not the other way round - but be aware of that bias on my part. There are plenty of other good rods. Look for a good bearing system, no exposed steel, a good cover/sheathing - or appropriate rod material. Avoid jointed rods as your main system - most have some flex and risk bore contact. Keep all rods clean and free from grit.

Bore guides are a good idea - you want them to centre the rod, minimise scraping in the bolt -way, avoid throat damage and rod to rifling contact. Not least it helps if they assist in stopping solvent leaking into the action & stock. Possum Hollow tick all my boxes - if someone can let me know why they seem impossible to get just now I'd be grateful - we've a number on backorder since May and Possum Hollow won't answer my e mails & calls! In that vein - if anyone knows of a good small batch plastic tube extruder/ turning company in NE Scotland we are seriously looking at getting something made.

To stop solvent leak it needs to be a good fit - or have a suitable o ring seal - as per Possum Hollow ( which is what Larry uses )

A good bore solvent - again there are lots to choose from. I like Butch's Bore Shine, Tetra, Shooters Choice - there are others. For Copper removal I like Forrest Foam. Wipe out is popular on here - seems to work just fine.

Good jag and patches - prefer spear type - as supplied with Dewey rod. Patch drops off at muzzle.

Brushes - prefer nylon to brass. We are using a copper/brass solvent, its going to attack a brass brush, re-depositing the very stuff we are trying to get out. The centre spine should be something softer than the bore and finished in a tight loop rather than cut with exposed ends - risking scratches. Nylon works well.

All brushes are grit magnets - they should be cleaned well after use and stored in a clean container. Brake cleaner is a good way to neutralise the solvent on the brush. Forget specialist shooting solvents - brake cleaner from Halfords is cheaper. Or if in my line of work buy it by the 5 litre can from an autofactor!

Some form of cradle makes life easier - sand bags or a slotted cardboard box does the same job as a specialist shooter clamp/vice/ rest.


Take new rifle. Strip and clean/ relube. Set it in your vice/ box/ stuffed Larry Potterfield etc.

Fit bore guide. Run a couple of solvent wet patches through the bore and give it a minute. Wet patch again, then run dry patches through. If they come out spotless, you're done. If getting grey/ black streaks then try either a patch of brake cleaner or the nylon brush through a bore solvent wet barrel.

Can be a pain, but do until you get a dry white patch out.

Remove bore guide and carefully wipe out chamber.

Fire first shot. Pause to marvel at what a great rifle you bought ;)

Repeat the above. This time as you push the cleaning rod up the bore, let it feedback to you what's going on.

Likely it'll be harder to push than the first time. There's a good chance you feel particular resistance about 7-9" ahead of the chamber.

You need to get the barrel back to pristine. Give the solvent time to work. When you think you are there, hold the final white, dry patch about an inch short of the muzzle and have a close look in bright light. If you see any streaks, keep going.

This is the impractical bit for those without ready range access. Have a read of the notes on the Border Barrels website - they leave Bore Foam in overnight - effectively firing one shot a day. That simply may not work for most people time wise.

Very careful and thats VERY - use of JB compound can speed things a little. But far better to allow chemical rather than mechanical action to shift the fouling.

Fire second shot. Repeat as above. This time there will likely be an easier push through the barrel. It wont be perfect, but it will get easier - if not this time, then at some point over the first 5-7 rounds.

Repeat process for at least first ten rounds - it will make a difference.

Given freehand and time, I will do this over however long it takes. Until the point is reached where I can tell by experience that the rod 'feels right'. Smoothly going up the entire length of the bore. Check with white patch at this stage and there should be very minimal or non existent streaks. Dry, the bore should be starting to look polished.

Most Tikkas/Sako/Howa its between 8-14 rounds in total. Sauers/ Blaser tend to be there within 5-6 rounds.

Brownings/ Ruger/ Remington - 15-20.

Thereafter repeat after every 5 rounds for at least two cycles.

A lot of effort? Yep - but you are investing up front. Think of the ammo you'll save in the long run - many rifles will behave without needing a fouling shot after proper break-in. Cleaning will tend to be a couple of wet patches, wait 15 minutes, final wet patch and three dry and you're done.

Many will disagree - that's fine. I often have to abridge this process with clients collecting new rifles - where ( understandably ) they want to be the first to shoot it. Even abridged, they can feel the difference and the improvement over 5 or 6 rounds.

Let us know how you get on.

You are right, many will disagree. I, on the other hand, agree 100%.
A very good post in my opinion.
Andy.
 
Very kind of people to say. Appreciate it was a bit long ( again :oops:).

I hate it when people dictate things, so always try to keep things open ended. Then again that can make things vague - sometimes you can't win! But people frequently look in amazement at the Sako 75 loan-out rifle on our DSC1/ Intro courses etc and ask how it performs like that day in day out - the above covers 90% of it.

Others may be quite happy from their own different experience - vive la difference. ;)
 
Good post Paul - just about everything there that I do with a new rifle. I would just add that I am a fan of Kano Kriol in the cleaning process. There has always been a debate about whether to shoot in a barrel or not and even some learned rifle people have deemed it a waste of time. My take has been that breaking in a barrel will certainly do it no harm and it would have to be sighted in anyway. I also hope the bore snake people will read your post - lol

You mentioned " if anyone knows of a good small batch plastic tube extruder/ turning company in NE Scotland we are seriously looking at getting something made."
I know they do not make plastic guides or are from the NE but have you looked up the website of The Shooting Shed ? They make bore guides and other bespoke items for the shooter/reloader and best of all they are British.
 
I'm not Larry Potterfield... :D

Most advice talks about numbers, but it's always best to be clear on what you are looking to achieve and act accordingly. every barrel - even from same maker can be different.

The break-in process is looking to apply a finish to the bore. Some argue it is a polish, others that they are sealing pores and imperfections. The reality ( as usual ) is a bit of both. And that's not leave out those who believe it to be a waste of time!

From dealing with hundreds of rifles, I believe it is worth doing.

At the outset, keep in mind it is possible to wear out/ damage a bore faster by incorrect 'cleaning' than by shooting.

Good kit pays for itself time after time. There's lots of good kit and some bad kit out there. I use Dewey rods - they work for me and they are my go to rod. We sell them, because I use them - not the other way round - but be aware of that bias on my part. There are plenty of other good rods. Look for a good bearing system, no exposed steel, a good cover/sheathing - or appropriate rod material. Avoid jointed rods as your main system - most have some flex and risk bore contact. Keep all rods clean and free from grit.

Bore guides are a good idea - you want them to centre the rod, minimise scraping in the bolt -way, avoid throat damage and rod to rifling contact. Not least it helps if they assist in stopping solvent leaking into the action & stock. Possum Hollow tick all my boxes - if someone can let me know why they seem impossible to get just now I'd be grateful - we've a number on backorder since May and Possum Hollow won't answer my e mails & calls! In that vein - if anyone knows of a good small batch plastic tube extruder/ turning company in NE Scotland we are seriously looking at getting something made.

To stop solvent leak it needs to be a good fit - or have a suitable o ring seal - as per Possum Hollow ( which is what Larry uses )

A good bore solvent - again there are lots to choose from. I like Butch's Bore Shine, Tetra, Shooters Choice - there are others. For Copper removal I like Forrest Foam. Wipe out is popular on here - seems to work just fine.

Good jag and patches - prefer spear type - as supplied with Dewey rod. Patch drops off at muzzle.

Brushes - prefer nylon to brass. We are using a copper/brass solvent, its going to attack a brass brush, re-depositing the very stuff we are trying to get out. The centre spine should be something softer than the bore and finished in a tight loop rather than cut with exposed ends - risking scratches. Nylon works well.

All brushes are grit magnets - they should be cleaned well after use and stored in a clean container. Brake cleaner is a good way to neutralise the solvent on the brush. Forget specialist shooting solvents - brake cleaner from Halfords is cheaper. Or if in my line of work buy it by the 5 litre can from an autofactor!

Some form of cradle makes life easier - sand bags or a slotted cardboard box does the same job as a specialist shooter clamp/vice/ rest.


Take new rifle. Strip and clean/ relube. Set it in your vice/ box/ stuffed Larry Potterfield etc.

Fit bore guide. Run a couple of solvent wet patches through the bore and give it a minute. Wet patch again, then run dry patches through. If they come out spotless, you're done. If getting grey/ black streaks then try either a patch of brake cleaner or the nylon brush through a bore solvent wet barrel.

Can be a pain, but do until you get a dry white patch out.

Remove bore guide and carefully wipe out chamber.

Fire first shot. Pause to marvel at what a great rifle you bought ;)

Repeat the above. This time as you push the cleaning rod up the bore, let it feedback to you what's going on.

Likely it'll be harder to push than the first time. There's a good chance you feel particular resistance about 7-9" ahead of the chamber.

You need to get the barrel back to pristine. Give the solvent time to work. When you think you are there, hold the final white, dry patch about an inch short of the muzzle and have a close look in bright light. If you see any streaks, keep going.

This is the impractical bit for those without ready range access. Have a read of the notes on the Border Barrels website - they leave Bore Foam in overnight - effectively firing one shot a day. That simply may not work for most people time wise.

Very careful and thats VERY - use of JB compound can speed things a little. But far better to allow chemical rather than mechanical action to shift the fouling.

Fire second shot. Repeat as above. This time there will likely be an easier push through the barrel. It wont be perfect, but it will get easier - if not this time, then at some point over the first 5-7 rounds.

Repeat process for at least first ten rounds - it will make a difference.

Given freehand and time, I will do this over however long it takes. Until the point is reached where I can tell by experience that the rod 'feels right'. Smoothly going up the entire length of the bore. Check with white patch at this stage and there should be very minimal or non existent streaks. Dry, the bore should be starting to look polished.

Most Tikkas/Sako/Howa its between 8-14 rounds in total. Sauers/ Blaser tend to be there within 5-6 rounds.

Brownings/ Ruger/ Remington - 15-20.

Thereafter repeat after every 5 rounds for at least two cycles.

A lot of effort? Yep - but you are investing up front. Think of the ammo you'll save in the long run - many rifles will behave without needing a fouling shot after proper break-in. Cleaning will tend to be a couple of wet patches, wait 15 minutes, final wet patch and three dry and you're done.

Many will disagree - that's fine. I often have to abridge this process with clients collecting new rifles - where ( understandably ) they want to be the first to shoot it. Even abridged, they can feel the difference and the improvement over 5 or 6 rounds.

Let us know how you get on.

Outstanding post in my opinion. You know your onions. With bit of experience the Rod `tells` you all you need to know.
Dare i suggest the Mods pin this for future reference?

Yorkie.
 
Clean any/all factory solvents out of the barrel.

Shoot it.

The break in was already spoiled by the fellow who test fired the gun. ~Muir
 
I tried the break in on several rifles but soon found that normally it made no difference. Of course most of those I did it on had hammer forged barrels and so tend to be very smooth to begin with. probably why Blaser takes so few.

Of course my experience with this is limited to a few "new" rifles as most of mine were brought used and those brought new only one fouls much and that's due to a tight bore. You can feel it with the rod as it take much more effort to push or pull through the whole length. In fact I have to trim patches smaller for this one. Loads also show pressure signs earlier.
 
On this note - is there any process that can improve the finish on a used rifle?


I bought used "well" rifle
I gave it the cleaning of its life which revealed that the bore had some pitting that was clearly filled with copper/fouling.
worried I assumed it would be crap

first few firings filled in the pitting nicely!! never cleaned it that hard again!

it shot under an inch all the time
 
Any rifle I get, new or used, I polish/laepp the bore but don't go overboard.
Main thing is to smooth, get dirt out and check for uniform resistance down the bore.
Then I just shoot. Maybe after 20-30 rounds de-copper just to see if the bore takes up
a lot of copper.
Cold bore shots create fire cracking most.
edi
 
Interesting article, most of my rifles have been someone elses cast offs so have never needed to break one in
if I every buy a new one I might follow Andys advise.
 
Yorky - its Andy, not Paul ( are you thinking of Mr Crehan? ).

Kroil - I like it a lot and Kroil/ Shooters Choice is an old stand-by for benchrester. I just could never get the flippin stuff to stay in the can! Think Reloading solutions still stock it.

Those copper and other deposits do cover a multitude - including moisture that accelerates pitting. So entirely possible to reach a point where a thorough clean gives you a 'problem' surface. Its then a calculated risk - and I dont know the best answer ( if there is one ) - leave it with a layer of copper ( pitting may continue ) or try to lap out the worst of it - quite possibly massively reducing the remaining life in the barrel. Best position is that it's possible to worry about things way to much. If it works for you, be happy.

Used barrels - take as first point the last sentence above. But possible that pitting is festering away. I'd always suggest a thorough clean first - then you know whats going on. A few shots will restore things if need be. Often the break-in process has been at least half way completed - at some point it will have had rounds through a clean barrel. Lapping with the likes of JB is an option, but I really think long and hard about any abrasive action.

The break-in theory is a process. As Muir says, often the rifle will have fired a test group and/ or proof round. Thats started the process. It doesnt mean you cant continue it - hence the initial clean out. Nothing wrong otherwise with what Muir says.

Dont let anyone convince you this is the one and only way! The theory here is to create as smooth and consistent passage for the bullet as possible.

Other views absolutely as valid as mine - as stated.

Feel I'd better add a caveat. Break-in/ cleaning as above wont do any harm. Its not particularly aimed at accuracy, but at longevity and ease of maintenance. Its quite valid to suggest that for an average stalking rifle, trying to emulate benchrest like performance is irrelevant. In the field the rifle & shooter that can hit a 4-6" target smoothly and quickly at varying ranges will likely be a more successful hunter than one that can only deliver 1/2" groups of 5 shots from a solid rest over a period of some time.
 
I use the routine as laid out by Moray.
Would my Barrels have behaved any differently without that process? I have no idea, maybe not, i will never know.

What i do know is that Rifles are very expensive items to me. That is of course relative to your income but to me they represent a substantial investment. I will therefore do what i can to make the best of that investment and if that means spending a day on a Range doing the break in then its not really such a massive sacrifice.
As has been pointed out it will not do any harm either.
:)

Yorkie.
 
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