And what would your plan be to pay for the maintenance of the huge tracts of land that are used for sustainable use hunting? Who is going to do that? There isn’t enough game to take photographic safaris so what else is your answer? Slash and burn agriculture, open cast mining? What then happens to the wildlife, biodiversity, the land and the people? How will you fund anti poaching, provide protein to the communities and mitigate the human- animal conflict? Have you considered these wider questions or have you only looked at the trophy pictures and regarded them as crass and in poor taste? For the record I agree regarding the photos, some People post, they can be in poor taste however the fact remains that conservation hunting employing sustainable use methods helps to maintain huge areas of land in a wild state. It benefits the ecosystem, the wildlife as a whole and the population who live there. It truly is a win:win situation compared to the alternatives.
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Some hunts do seem to lean in that direction it is true, which is why, whenever I watch African safari videos (which I enjoy), I try to avoid the ones featuring American clients
But I believe there's a lot of good work being done off the back of the hunting tourism industry, so I keep an open mind and reserve judgement until (if ever) I get to see for myself.
norsk
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Nope.
Go shoot some Lion while you still can then old Bean.
norsk
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There are not enough paying " hunters" to subsidise your model either. DG hunting is on the way out,simple as that I am quite happy to report.
Times change old chap,Africa is testament to that.
tackb
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I’ll be interested to see your reaction when your hunting is banned……..
Proof of this?
norsk
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You could always enquire on say an investment forum with the title " Big game hunting in Africa,worth investing in?".
Be a good weather vane if nothing else.
On my first trip to Mozambique we drove from Pretoria around the bottom edge of the Kruga then crossed into Mozambique staying for 5 weeks
during that time I was asked to guide divers from different family's as the Dads had their own ribs but as I was teaching other lads to dive out there they would come and ask if I would take their kids (no problem) early morning dives good fun. Now one chap was the head of the banana growers association with a huge plantation employing a lots of people so we were invited to the house for a meal on our way then on Nth through the Kruga as Hennies Dads farm was Nth.
I went the next year and was chatting to one of the Boer lads and he told me that farm was being taken back by way of a claim, 3 years later the whole place was finished no crops all the machinery broken/sold trees burnt for firewood.
That estate was sustainable but broken in 3 years
norsk
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Never happen in the Nordic's,well not untill the Bears and Wolves stop eating livestock.
Put simply,in the eyes of the masses hunting is bad. Some hunting can be tolerated if the quarry is not romantic/ idolised/seen in cartoons. No one realky needs to go to Africa to end the type of Animals kindergarten kids worship. So there we are.
So no proof of your claims, which proves sonething else. Thanx for the info!
norsk
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Thank you for the interest.
Nimrod1960
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Not my cup of tea but each to his/her own.
Interesting post and views.
Interesting post and views.
Goldilocks and the three bears. Teddy bears. Little bear. Baloo.
Less so with wolves but Balto, Wendy wolf, Akela.
There are animal characters of many species which are romanticised/idolised/seen in cartoons. If you apply your own logic to quarry you consider acceptable, your position doesn't look very consistent and many could argue that the species you consider acceptable to shoot are not.
Further, you make the point that bears and wolves attack stock in Scandinavia, i.e. damage farmers' livelihoods. Do you honestly think that African livestock, game species and crops are somehow exempt from the same issues?
Now I personally wouldn't rush to shoot a lion and certainly not broadcast it on social media but I can completely understand why the population might be controlled and if someone is willing to pay big money to take part, and that money goes towards the local community or supporting conservation and sustainable populations and habitats, then where's the issue?
As hunters we need to stand together on sustainable hunting regardless of quarry otherwise we might just find ourselves victims of our own double standards later on.
shakey jake
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You are talking nonsense.
Why should you be able to control predators but not africans?
Your initial point was against game hunting, if any where needs hunters money its africa
I think Mr Norsk needs to have a real look at his stated country of residence, maybe he didn't notice the opposition to the Minkie Whale issue, or the Gray Wolf ...... both thin ended wedges for any hunting.
Have you shot in Africa? I went out for a Bush Buck on my last day there nothing but managed a baboon lol
Always intended to, but sadly no longer an option for me
norsk
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Eh?
Because I am not breeding preditors in order to shoot them for sport.
My initial point is against DG hunting especialy rearing Lions for commercial hunting.
Where I live there must be enough Deer and Moose to support preditors,otherwise they eat sheep and cattle. Nobody is rearing Wolves and Bear in order to sell the possibility of shooting them.
shakey jake
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No your initial post said big game not dg, what about other predators then?
If you dont like it fine, but to want others to not be able to is a crappy attitude.
I dont think you understand how and why its done.
On the flip side you could stop cattle and sheep farming then no need to control wolves and bears? Simple
