.260, Overlooked?

[Bowland blades]

According to Federal they will be reloadable but you will need an additional “flaring” die to accept the bullet. Ron Spomer does a good podcast on it and makes the point that the new velocity out of an existing Creedmoor makes it on a par with the venerable .270 but with a better BC bullet!
No doubt there will be a rush for this ammo by existing Creedmoor owners - then we will find out for sure whether the additional 300 fps, presumably additional recoil and 25,000 additional pressure is sustainable….

I wont even think of buying one . I doubt it will be taken up the shooting public , the military might as they do not reload and over powering means longer range supresion fire ( no deer hunter will need that )

 

[Foxyboy43]

I wont even think of buying one . I doubt it will be taken up the shooting public , the military might as they do not reload and over powering means longer range supresion fire ( no deer hunter will need that )

Indeed but think of all those girlie types who can step into men’s shoes - finally….

 

[JonR]

Many of the more modern cartridges are marketed as an answer to a problem that older cartridges could have resolved with barrel twists and throat geometry choices better suited to new bullet designs.

 

[andyk]

Many of the more modern cartridges are marketed as an answer to a problem that older cartridges could have resolved with barrel twists and throat geometry choices better suited to new bullet designs.

Absolutely.

I would think some of the trouble with modernising existing cartridges would be the compatibility issues, so it’s probably easier to have a new cartridge. That and it is better from a marketing perspective.

 

[Foxyboy43]

The Spomer podcast…

 

[MidlandsPaperPuncher]

260 Rem has a shorter, wider freebore, and a 3 degree half angle leade on the rifling as opposed to a 1.3 degree half angle.

That makes it a pain to seat long bullets, fussy about bullet selection and jump, and factory 260 rems don't have a fast enough twist.

The only 260 rems that shoot like a creedmoor have custom chambers.

 

[BE Precision]

Totally agree. Inside of 250m the Creedmoor will certainly handle itself on any UK species. On paper it'll probably handle any UK species out to 350m - who needs more than that?

@RCS Deer Management ? Know anyone ??

 

[Keith Edmunds]

As will all any from the legal UK minimum list and Over in other nations even Elk etc are hunted with just a .223

Of course, I've owned .243, .270, .308 and 6.5CM - all do the same job. I don't think that the 6.5CM is in any way outstanding but for what I do - Fallow, Roe and Munty mainly within 250m - the Creedmoor does it very well with plenty of factory ammo choice, especially copper. If I just had one calibre, I'd probably keep the Creed or the .308 - much in a muchness really.

 

[Bowland blades]

260 Rem has a shorter, wider freebore, and a 3 degree half angle leade on the rifling as opposed to a 1.3 degree half angle.

That makes it a pain to seat long bullets, fussy about bullet selection and jump, and factory 260 rems don't have a fast enough twist.

The only 260 rems that shoot like a creedmoor have custom chambers.

Times change , My 260 was built to run copper and it has carried a 1-7.5 twist from the get go ! remember the Creed was not was not a thing and few used copper bullets . Heck a 1-8 twist was not really a thing but now .270 , 243, 223 etc etc etc Carry those faster twist . Chambers can be altered and barrels can be swapped . Pretty sure the .260rem and many more will be off the shelf fast twist.
Those who are shooting with older barrels without the faster twist rates, its only been a thing for fast twist what ? 4 years or so !

 

[Jagged77]

Both of mine are / were 1:8 twist - dating from 2012 ish. Both set up for long range though.

 

[tackb]

Times change , My 260 was built to run copper and it has carried a 1-7.5 twist from the get go ! remember the Creed was not was not a thing and few used copper bullets . Heck a 1-8 twist was not really a thing but now .270 , 243, 223 etc etc etc Carry those faster twist . Chambers can be altered and barrels can be swapped . Pretty sure the .260rem and many more will be off the shelf fast twist.
Those who are shooting with older barrels without the faster twist rates, its only been a thing for fast twist what ? 4 years or so !

Why would they launch of the shelf fast twist 260rem when it’s already covered by creedmoor with lashings of factory ammo ?

Creedmoor won by marketing and support what sort of idiot would launch an existing round that’s hardly supported when there’s a better round that’s supported and already established ?

 

[jb1]

Well I've had my 260 for year's now on its 2nd barrel. Does exactly what it's supposed to just like any of the other 6.5's
Would I change it for a different 6.5 ? No.
Why would i ?
It's still shooting well.sub moa with 140 Amax and my last tub of H4350..

 

[shakey jake]

Why would they launch of the shelf fast twist 260rem when it’s already covered by creedmoor with lashings of factory ammo ?

Creedmoor won by marketing and support what sort of idiot would launch an existing round that’s hardly supported when there’s a better round that’s supported and already established ?

I think the same sort of idiot that thinks lamping hares is illegal

 

[ShovelyG]

I find the whataboutism around chamberings a little tiresome. Hornady did a great job marketing the Creedmoor and probably succeeded in that area where others didn't.
That isn't a bad thing. If the aim was to make the 6.5 mainstream it's achieved that. The Americans weren't flocking to the Swede or other 6.5 offerings in significant numbers before the launch of the Creedmoor.

People rightly point out it doesn't do anything other 6.5 can do. However it does lots of things very well and it's highly versatile. This is evidenced by it's adoption in the US and UK military (I doubt the decision makers in the army are heavily influenced by Horandys marketing department)

Finally it has remained popular for 2 decades. Marketing will get you so far but it wouldn't have maintained the sales if it wasn't a half decent cartridge.
I do own one along with 243 both a great for what I do.

 

[ShovelyG]

One other thing - + peak is interesting development and I am sure will have the long term effect of moving the goal posts as it's rolled out to other chamberings.

I am sure I will see people on here argue that 2500 ft lbs of energy is no longer viable for some rutting species and you must have more.

The willy wagging will never end