300 win mag

[Jagare]

I had a .300 win mag for a few years. It was not unpleasant to shoot but I came to the conclusion why lugg around a .300 win mag when In reality I could kill everthing with a .243 including big fallow bucks. A .308 will kill any deer in the UK as cleanly as a .300 win mag.
The .300 win mag is much loved on the Monteria's in Spain and Portugal because they like to use fire power over shooting skill.
Neither will a .300 win mag make your willy bigger. Owning one had no affect on my todger.
But if someone feels the need to own a .300 win mag Then go for it.

 

[shakey jake]

when i got a 7mm rem mag, i was told how shocking the recoil would be, looked at chucks site and confirmed it was horendous. zeroed it,seemed a little lively. had a go with a mates 30 06 and he shot mine both agreed his was far more unpleasant. muzzle flip worse and recoil seemed worse.
since then ive shot fox, munty, cwd and roe. it now seems fine to me.
i justified it as i wanted to be ready for a change to copper and wanted aolq so i was used to it.
as some one said all deer legal will kill in the uk, none are more dangerous. the idea that a 30 cal bullet will become more dangerous if pushed a bit faster is beyond stupid

 

[Brave Echo Niner]

Yep the .300 is clearly an unmanageable beast - regularly shooting ‘abhorrent’ groups like this one from yesterday, clearly too much recoil to handle…

 

[JH83]

I suspect I will end up with one at some point for culling on the hill, or possibly a 7mm RM of which I have had already (and stupidly sold). I have also shot @Brave Echo Niner WSM and it’s a pussycat, no problems, and wonderfully accurate.

As many others have said it’s bullet design and shot placement that will cause the most mess. I can’t recall anything awful occurring with my 7mm RM. It also folded them much quicker than the 25-06 I was using at the time, I was culling quite a few sika in heavy forestry so I thought I’d up the calibre and I must say it worked a treat.

Crack on I say, justify it carefully as Ed layed out and I can’t see it being much harder to obtain than anything else.

 

[HonestJohn]

Have to say, I think my next 'hill rifle' if I bother, will be a good old 7x64. can't beat a good old 7mm.

 

[stubear]

Nice - purely as an experiment and to help me get over my collie-wobbles you could always gift it to me?

If you frequent Bisley at all you are welcome to come try it mate

As to selling it, I’d never sell that one - always wanted one, and it’s my GOAT

 

[njc110381]

I've got a .300WSM, which is pretty well the same. No bother with it being granted, I wanted it for larger deer up in Scotland where the ranges are a bit longer than down in my local woods. It's not bad to shoot, even without the moderator.

If you don't ask, you don't get.

 

[Rutland lad]

I own a .300 Winmag. I’ve had two rifles in this calibre, a Steyr Prohunter 2 and now a Mauser MO3.
The Steyr was livelier than the Mauser, but with a hand loaded 180 grain Barnes TSX it shoots everything from Reds to Muntjac, and has shot a single boar in Hungary (holiday of a lifetime - never again)
People have called it a cannon, and how it must blow muntjac apart - absolute rubbish. It leaves less meat damage than a 243, and it does clearly carry much more energy down range for longer range shots.
People who’ve never shot one decry them. People who have used them extensively love them.
I’ve included two photos - one of the 300 WM and one of a 375 H&H targets (both at 100m). Neither are bad groups (3 shots) - amazing when you consider the violent recoil people are talking about.
I will tell you I’ve also got a 6.5x55 barrel for my MO3, and for local woodland stalking that is my rifle of choice. Two reasons - I can clearly see a reaction to shot, which I cannot always with the 300WM, and costs. It uses a lot less powder ! But as regards comfort or meat damage, there is nothing in it whatsoever.
The 300 Winmag also has an amazing range of bullet weights which you can experiment with. You can go down well into 308 territory and go up to 220 grains easily. There’s not much else with its versatility.
Buy - enjoy.

 

[Finnwolf VL63]

I own a .300 Winmag. I’ve had two rifles in this calibre, a Steyr Prohunter 2 and now a Mauser MO3.
The Steyr was livelier than the Mauser, but with a hand loaded 180 grain Barnes TSX it shoots everything from Reds to Muntjac, and has shot a single boar in Hungary (holiday of a lifetime - never again)
People have called it a cannon, and how it must blow muntjac apart - absolute rubbish. It leaves less meat damage than a 243, and it does clearly carry much more energy down range for longer range shots.
People who’ve never shot one decry them. People who have used them extensively love them.
I’ve included two photos - one of the 300 WM and one of a 375 H&H targets (both at 100m).View attachment 299632 Neither are bad groups (3 shots) - amazing when you consider the violent recoil people are talking about.
I will tell you I’ve also got a 6.5x55 barrel for my MO3, and for local woodland stalking that is my rifle of choice. Two reasons - I can clearly see a reaction to shot, which I cannot always with the 300WM, and costs. It uses a lot less powder ! But as regards comfort or meat damage, there is nothing in it whatsoever.
The 300 Winmag also has an amazing range of bullet weights which you can experiment with. You can go down well into 308 territory and go up to 220 grains easily. There’s not much else with its versatility.
Buy - enjoy.

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Good shooting and fantastic calibre choices.
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[Stalker-of-the-deer]

Main thing with a 300wm is getting a rifle that fits you. That's the same with any other rifle.

I've used an old 243 which was horrid to shoulder and guess what, for a 243 the muzzle flip was horrid and the recoil to boot.

When they fit and you can get up behind the stock properly the recoil isnt bad at all. Yes it's a bit more than my other rifles but its not horrific by any means. Mines got a muzzle break on it but with a moderator fitted i would think it would be alot more pleasant to fire.

 

[phillips321]

Justification for my 300wm was i wanted a hard hitting 30cf that would put deer down quickly with less chance of running off the permission before running out of steam.

 

[User00040]

You'll need a heavy rifle (over 5kg) to shoot a 300WM well. My 7mm Rem Mag is around this weight and is perfectly manageable.

I'd like to see someone shoot a sub MOA, 5 round group with a 4kg 300 WM with 200grain+ bullets though...

 

[Selous]

You'll need a heavy rifle (over 5kg) to shoot a 300WM well. My 7mm Rem Mag is around this weight and is perfectly manageable.

I'd like to see someone shoot a sub MOA, 5 round group with a 4kg 300 WM with 200grain+ bullets though...

I might be wrong but I suspect that a .375 H&H with a 300 grain bullet at 2550fps will give more felt recoil than an 8.8lb 300 with a 200 grain bullet. There are two sub MOA groups pictured in this thread already doing just that with the .375 and mine was shot off sticks. Not a difficult trick to achieve to be honest. However when you go the other side of a 375 then things start to get more difficult.

 

[User00040]

I might be wrong but I suspect that a .375 H&H with a 300 grain bullet at 2550fps will give more felt recoil than an 8.8lb 300 with a 200 grain bullet. There are two sub MOA groups pictured in this thread already doing just that with the .375 and mine was shot off sticks. Not a difficult trick to achieve to be honest. However when you go the other side of a 375 then things start to get more difficult.

That would be valid if three shots could be called a group... try 5-10 (although I would be very worried if that many shots were needed for a single animal!)

 

[Zio65]

Sì, il .300 è chiaramente una bestia ingestibile: spara regolarmente a gruppi "ripugnanti" come questo di ieri, chiaramente troppo rinculo da gestire...

View attachment 299599

Anche il mio Weatherby 300WM non va bene
Ps: Accubond 180

 

[Selous]

That would be valid if three shots could be called a group... try 5-10 (although I would be very worried if that many shots were needed for a single animal!)

True to a degree but if you can’t put three in a group you definitely can’t put five in a group!

 

[Rutland lad]

You'll need a heavy rifle (over 5kg) to shoot a 300WM well. My 7mm Rem Mag is around this weight and is perfectly manageable.

I'd like to see someone shoot a sub MOA, 5 round group with a 4kg 300 WM with 200grain+ bullets though...

I agree with you group of three rounds if running up a new load, but those groups I posted are achievable every time I pick up the rifle - provided I’m off bags on a bench !
And there’s the rub - could I be that accurate in the field on an animal ? I think I could be with the first shot, and that’s what really matters isn’t it.
Those photos were only posted up to dispel the ugly rumour that the larger calibres are unmanageable. But I’ll refer readers to my previous posts on SD - my go to rifle for local deer stalking is a 6.5x55

 

[badmolassesaccident]

1)Join a club - long range target
2)Ethical - larger bullet for testosterone fuelled bucks stags (give examples of deer that didnt die immediately with good solid shot placement)
3) ground requires longer shots, require more energy for ethical kills (see above)
Make sure you indicate that this is an additional requirement not instead of a 308

At least those were my main points

I have a .300 although not a WM.

These points cover it.

You can also add less wind drift - beneficial at extended range or in high/variable wind.

In my case the justification was long range target, but I asked for open - lawful quarry too and got it.

If you want to do long range target, there are better .300 calibers than the WM such as .300 Norma or .300 PRC. Norma you will need to homeload unless you want to pay £5 per cartridge but PRC you can buy factor match and expanding ammo for about £2.50/cartridge... as long as you like Hornady. There’s more ammo choice with WM, but it is less suited to very long range.

Don’t forget you need a magnum rated moderator and check your scope ring/base screw torque or the recoil will work them loose.

 

[Big T69]

I am just applying for a variation to clear my 243 and the 308 and to get a Savage 110L 300 win mag

 

[Motul1974]

I've just added a 300wsm to cabinet. FEO told me there'd be no problem getting one as I already had a 308.....I think he thought it was smaller!