7x64 vs 270 win

[Namman]

As has been said there is a much bigger choice of bullet weights in 7mm compared to my beloved .270. However IMO the heavier bullets (160gr and above) are not the best choice for Fallow deer and smaller, as they are designed for heavier game and don't expand adequately. With 130 or 140 gr 7mm bullets you have a super.270!

 

[Dave881]

Thanks for all the replies everyone, it does seem that the 7x64 will give me more options as I home load. I am not really worries about factory ammo as if I do ever get the chance to stalk somewhere that isn't local I would take both the 7mm barrel and the 308 barrel to cover myself should I have any problem with ammo. If anyone has any recommendations for a good powder that would cover both the above calibres that would be great, I can get vhit and alliant locally to me, would have to ask around when the rfds reopen for anything else. Thanks again for the help and does anyone use lead free in 7x64 as that's something else of interest to me.
Tganks
Dave

 

[Heym SR20]

Dave,

I have been using IMR 4831 and 4350 in my 7x65R and think the IMR 4350 is the better burn rate. Going forward I will probably use Vit N540 or Reload Swiss equivalent.

As for non-toxic bullets, I have about 120 Rounds of RWS HIT ammo with their 139gn Non Toxic bullet. Accurate and kills well. I have also had very good results with the Fox 130gn bullet in both my 7x57 and 7x65R - again accurate and kills well, but leaves a nice clean carcass.

For Wildboar I use the 173gr RWS ID Classic / Brenneke bullet - this a partition bullet and hits very hard, but does cause a bit of carcass damage.

Friend in Germany has a 7x64 Blaser and he use the Geco Ammo - just their bog standard soft point on everything from Roe up to big wild boar. And its his goto gun when tracking up wounded boar.

 

[Lateral]

The Geco soft point is 165gn, and it was easily sub 1" in my rifle, but because the rifle is 99% boar from a stand/tower, I load the Oryx 156gn.

I'm using Vit N560, very accurate, but if I were to start again, I'd be starting with RL26. This is with Norma brass.

 

[Island]

7x64.

Everything that the .270 should have been....

 

[enfieldspares]

Everything that the .270 should have been....

No. The .280 Remington formerly the 7mm Remington Express is everything the .270 WCF should have been. But yes, effectively, you are right also.

 

[Island]

Thanks for all the replies everyone, it does seem that the 7x64 will give me more options as I home load. I am not really worries about factory ammo as if I do ever get the chance to stalk somewhere that isn't local I would take both the 7mm barrel and the 308 barrel to cover myself should I have any problem with ammo. If anyone has any recommendations for a good powder that would cover both the above calibres that would be great, I can get vhit and alliant locally to me, would have to ask around when the rfds reopen for anything else. Thanks again for the help and does anyone use lead free in 7x64 as that's something else of interest to me.
Tganks
Dave

I am away from home for the next wee while and have asked Ed @Edinburgh Rifles to work up a non-lead load in my rifle so that I am ready for the stags when I get back. I'll let you know how it goes once I have had a few!

 

[Dave881]

I am away from home for the next wee while and have asked Ed @Edinburgh Rifles to work up a non-lead load in my rifle so that I am ready for the stags when I get back. I'll let you know how it goes once I have had a few!

Thats great, thank you it would help a lot.

 

[Max]

Hi everyone,
I have been looking at switching calibre and when it is possible I am going to put in a variation for a spare barrel. I am shooting a sauer 202 so switching barrels is easy and I have had my eye on getting a 7x64 for quite a while now, I currently shoot 243 and 308 and will be getting rid of 243 to fund the new barrel. I am wanting to shoot the nosler 150 grain accubond LR bullets and have seen they also do them in 277 which opens up getting a 270 barrel that will probably be easier to source, so my question is are there any advantages to the 7x64? Will the 270 stabalise this bullet? I want the rifle for general purpose stalking, muntjac, roe and fallow but I am also interested in learning to shoot at longer ranges so will occasionally be playing out to 600ish yards. Any thoughts or experiences would be great.
Thanks
Dave

Do it you won’t regret it. I put a 7x64 on my Sauer 404 this year and love it, tight groups with 140gn Sierra S/SP

 

[sundog]

I had the itch for a 7mm of some sort a few years back and had narrowed it down to 7x57 or 7x64 and the 7x64 was just edging ahead but getting a 270 was just too easy and that's what I've got now and very happy with it. When you put the micrometer on 270 bullets they come out at a smidge over 7mm.
Now I don't know where I picked up this rumour, myth, legend, nonsense but is it true that what Winchester originally wanted when they invented the 270 was a 7mm-06 but when their engineers started out to design it they made it a proper 7mm bullet and so the rifle bore had to be 6.8mm. When they realised their mistake they had already spent a lot of money on research and tooling so they dropped the bullet weight to 130 grains to get the speed over the magical 3000fps and 'employed' Jack O'Conner to hype the hell out of it.
I don't know if this is true or not. Do any of you guys know?

 

[enfieldspares]

The story supposedly has a version that they'd a load of unchambered barrels for a unfulfilled "Chinese contract" in that odd .277" size. But I personally think that someone made a balls up, yes, and they made the thing a true 7mm. Other sources say that in fact at the same time that Remington were working on a version of the 7mm-06 in .284". I guess like the Vickers Luger it is something where because secondhand sources are being quoted (through being too lazy to do proper research) and re-quoted (instead of original sources) that false tales then become believed to be true.