A message to BASC...
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Rewulf
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baguio
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What are you going on about? I don't do cryptic stuff.Just noticed this on the BASC insurance.
Legal cover.
You're on your own son.
bottletopbill
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All parties should fight together IN OUR CAUSE
Sell the Mill, ..... Work from home!
baguio
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If that's a joke then don't give up the day job son!It's hardly cryptic is it
Its a joke, because there is no legal cover.
So your dig at the CPSA limited cover, holds no weight compared to BASC s, who don't actually have any.
Is that clear enough for you?
It wasn't a dig at the CPSA at all either. Try putting your brain into gear and reading the rest of my post "I suspect that this is standard across all the shooting insurances. I therefore wonder how many of the guns on a driven day are still insured after 11:15AM given that a tot of something at 11:00AM is pretty standard on driven game shoots."
Rewulf
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Oh dear , someone got out of bed wrong* this morning
If its not a dig at the CPSA insurance , what was it , a dig at people who drink at game shoots ? What are you actually trying to say ?
Why mention it at all , if they are all the same , its irrelevant anyway.
I pointed out that BASC dont do legal cover any more, and it proper triggered you !
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bottletopbill
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Come on guys do we need to argue no wonder the cops are pushing for every thing they want.
If we stand together and push each organisation to fight together for our future.
Could all shooting organisations have a member of staff dealing with licences only and police matters. ?
Let us leave our kids the same as we had
If we stand together and push each organisation to fight together for our future.
Could all shooting organisations have a member of staff dealing with licences only and police matters. ?
Let us leave our kids the same as we had
I give up.
Aren't BASC et al supposed to be critically focussed on maintaining the sport ? They (BASC) have a USP, apparently having a firearms department - which is clearly NOT proactive. Poor old Harriman has to have a second job I wonder who pays whom for that ?
I have experience of NGO being proactive with unpaid staff. Never been a member of the CPSA.
If we (collectively) have to ask for their help, rather than thank them for a job well done, they (collectively) are not doing it right. I cant remember the number of times and number of people who advocated a merger to strengthen ourvoice - clearly our voice isn't strong enough - or someone has been deaf for years.
Aren't BASC et al supposed to be critically focussed on maintaining the sport ? They (BASC) have a USP, apparently having a firearms department - which is clearly NOT proactive. Poor old Harriman has to have a second job I wonder who pays whom for that ?
I have experience of NGO being proactive with unpaid staff. Never been a member of the CPSA.
If we (collectively) have to ask for their help, rather than thank them for a job well done, they (collectively) are not doing it right. I cant remember the number of times and number of people who advocated a merger to strengthen ourvoice - clearly our voice isn't strong enough - or someone has been deaf for years.
Turned up full Kes, 
Rewulf
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Absolutely !
Why , in the face of imminent threat to private firearms ownership, and shooting in general , can all shooting orgs not get there heads together, if not merge , have some kind of working group , to speak with one voice to police and government ?
My belief is , that the main partner being BASC , either do not want to give up their supposed top spot, or their aims are not aligned with the others orgs....
What those aims are , they appear to not want to share with the plebs who pay for the 'privilege' of being members, but I fancy that , if shared , or put to any kind of meaningful vote, would mean those members would be jumping the proverbial plague infested, burning ship.
If BASC are the voice of shooting, they are pretty dumb , and very deaf to whats happening, and that IMHO, is completely intentional, and downright unacceptable .
Would you give up your spot in B.A.S.C. if a merger was on the cards? ................................................... FARKARFF!
they unite for game shooting, which obviously is top on their agenda.
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Rewulf
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Where the money is, and where BASCs main interests lie.
Always has been always will be, as your last paragraph. Not one of them will join or merge, it could have happened in the 90's CA and BASC but the wildfowlers and pigeon shooters came in droves to vote against a merger. BASC will Reap the whirlwind, my thoughts, just a paper tiger with a squeak not a roar. A club with no voice to take on the police, who think they are no threat to any action they take.
jimmy milnes
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Just an observation from the side but, dont you think driven game shooting an its protection would be the main priority of the game keeping organisations "NGO, SGA" id imagine a touch of a clue would be in their names.
Jimmy
I believe the point being called out re the CPSA insurance ( as was the same with the side-by-side one) was that there are plenty of avenues that the companies can use to get out of covering you as with the clause re alcohol
Rewulf
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Traditionally yes, but if only gamekeepers joined the NGO , and only clay shooters joined the CPSA ect , then all of these 'fringe' orgs would be weak.
BASC was always like an umbrella org that ALL shooters could benefit from , and for many years , included myself, as that is where I thought I 'belonged'
Lets be brutally honest here, BASC has lost a lot of members, because of its arrogance, and the pursuits of its core leadership, it WILL become steadily less influential , as many ex members seek out other orgs for their needs.
What I find depressingly apparent , is if BASC really cared about shooters, of ALL types , they would indeed work much more closely with other orgs , yet it appears its the BASC way or no way.
The only way BASC care about a shooter, and this is very little , is if you are a sub paying member , or using one of their many 'services'
I absolutely understood that , being drunk at the wheel of your car can 'technically' invalidate the insurance , but when I tried a little humour on BASCs removal on its legal cover , a move that caused a mass exodus from them, someone lost their %$£"
paul o'
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They wont as it means spending your funds ! they need them to keep there nice jobs and the lights on ?
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