Smellydog
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Or ask them which department to claim for loss of livestock whilst they apprehend your legal right to a firearm.
Acquiring experience shooting foxes and rabbits.
- Thread starter Shrike
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Ok, what you need to do is ask if anyone with more than 5 years of experience and an open cert with basically any 22 cf rifle want to come out and shoot your land while giving you some experience for the FEO request .
You are far less likely to be invited onto another guys ground. Anyone without territorial restrictions can do this .
Personally i find it bonkers you cannot simply sit a training course because there is far more risk of you learning bad stuff from someone who has " done it since Adam was a Lad " Or in this case held a cert 5 years as is that is in itself very none specific ( has the guy been out foxing at night 1000 times or 4-5 ?) .
You are far less likely to be invited onto another guys ground. Anyone without territorial restrictions can do this .
Personally i find it bonkers you cannot simply sit a training course because there is far more risk of you learning bad stuff from someone who has " done it since Adam was a Lad " Or in this case held a cert 5 years as is that is in itself very none specific ( has the guy been out foxing at night 1000 times or 4-5 ?) .
I too found it surprising that a course wasn't what they wanted. I did double check with them and they specifically said no.
I appreciate the suggestion. I am currently trying to find someone who can help me.
Oh yeah I got that , just posted out how crazy it isI too found it surprising that a course wasn't what they wanted. I did double check with them and they specifically said no.
I appreciate the suggestion. I am currently trying to find someone who can help me.
good evening ,as stated by members ,you do not need to get expierience or do a course ,its you families live stock you are protecting .tell the feo that and that you know all the footpths,roads and access points and also you have defined safe back stops and you intend to shoot from an elevated postion into the ground. a center fire is LESS likely to bounce around unlike the humble .22lr.. an elevated position can be any thing as long as the bullet is heading towards the ground/solid back stop. i am assuming you are 18 years +?
Hi Shrike.
I'm a bit disappointed that no members on here in your area have offered to help, if they have a fear of you stealing their permission/s they could mentor you on your land.
I have mentored over six people and helped them to get their fac including getting them a written permission for rimfire/s-----never lost any permission with doing this.
In my case's the fire arms officer has phoned me to ask if i think they are now safe after this mentoring period (obviously i wouldn't recommend anyone that i thought wasn't safe)
Come on local lads, give a fellow shooter a bit of help
Shrike
I personally would go .17 hmr for rabbits over .22lr, for range and safety (ricochet).
As for centre fire foxes owt from 223 upwards will be fine.
Dave (warbucks)
I'm a bit disappointed that no members on here in your area have offered to help, if they have a fear of you stealing their permission/s they could mentor you on your land.
I have mentored over six people and helped them to get their fac including getting them a written permission for rimfire/s-----never lost any permission with doing this.
In my case's the fire arms officer has phoned me to ask if i think they are now safe after this mentoring period (obviously i wouldn't recommend anyone that i thought wasn't safe)
Come on local lads, give a fellow shooter a bit of help
Shrike
I personally would go .17 hmr for rabbits over .22lr, for range and safety (ricochet).
As for centre fire foxes owt from 223 upwards will be fine.
Dave (warbucks)
I am over 18. I’ve decided that if I can’t find help I may try my luck reasoning with them. No need to upset them if I manage to find someone though and the mentoring would be useful and an all around good idea.
To give credit where it is due I’ve had a few people message me with potential offers of help. I think I’ll be ok but I will keep this thread updated with my progress.
To be honest after speaking to people I think I’ve been sold on the .17 over the .22.
Hopefully that’s not a controversial comment!
BenBhoy
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I'd throw 204 into the ring.
Well thats good news that you've been offered help
.With rabbit shooting, if they haven't been shot at before you can walk them down to 50 yds at night, but after a few shooting session's the remainder it will be 80 yds or so, and after consecutive years of shooting it will eventually get where one shot and the field clears, with the hmr its point-n-shoot from 30 yds-110 yds, makes life a lot easier and safer.
By all means talk and ask fire arms licensing, but don't complain, at the end of the day you have to go through them and they can make it more harder for you, ie put your application to the bottom of the pile, make you wait 18 month's + for centre fire.
Good luck and i hope all goes well for you.
Dave (warbucks)
Hook'N'Bullet
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Yeah this malarkey of gaining experience with the calibers is a load of ox-boll. How are you suppose to get experience if:
1 - He cant get the license to take the gun shooting. The fact OP doesn't know anybody with those calibers is not his problem
2 - A firearms training course will not be considered experience (which is the biggest joke I've heard)
How exactly do you register and prove you've done these sessions to gain experience? Copper is just being awkward IMO.
This is the route I'd take with the police. You can't be reasonably expected to know who has a .22-250 that you could ask and placing an advert somewhere has its own problems as others have mentioned. The police also can't share information with you of other FAC holders.
I have both calibres you are requesting but there are several hundred miles of difference between your location and mine otherwise I'd be happy to help.
As an aside, I really can't see where the police can justify making you 'gain experience first' but I have heard of 'mentoring' and in my opinion, it falls on its ar5e for several reasons.
Shooting is much like driving, you learn after you pass your driving test, you gain experience the more you do it and it can often take years and many hundreds of rounds to be competent. The priority is safety and if you know the basics of that with ANY gun then its pretty much cracked.
Hook'N'Bullet
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Charollais
BenBhoy
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Ahh not bad at all. You breeding tups through society? I'm good pals with Neil from Lowereye flock.Charollais
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