Dunwaters
Well-Known Member
Cheer up!
Its all good clean fun until someone loses an eye….wait you’re holding your face, has it already happened?
Cheer up!
It may be something of a technicality, but being invited by the Irish is not quite the same thing.Really?
You invaded Ireland and claimed it for your own.
Yes. Not an employee of Britain. Unlike an Irishman who succeeded him.Did you ever hear of Clive of India?
Not an employee of the UKHow about Cecil Rhodes?
Your point being that the natives of that area preferred the status quo ante where they were continually raided and trafficked across the Arabian Sea as slaves by the Sultanate of Zanzibar?British East Africa?
Make your mind up, either it was wrong that we supported privatising them (you object to the private ownership of land and property and are a communist?), or wrong to have annexed them (that they would have been better left to their private owners)? Very little of the British Empire was acquired by force of arms, except when taken off other European powers ...e.g. Gibraltar.Your country has supported the wholesale privatisation and annexation of independent territories by force of arms for centuries.
No we didn't, and they didn't. Where did you learn or invent this ...er....collection of opinions?You also claimed all of the continent of North America for yourselves until the residents of the southern portion rebelled and threw you out.
I don't remember calling you "dumb" but I won't dispute your qualification.And you called me “ dumb “?
Someone certainly has a selective memory on expansionism. Ireland having spent much of the late twentieth century trying to acquire part of the UK by force and perhaps maintaining an expansionist claim in its constitution?Perhaps, but it is true.
There are episodes in the history of most nations that are not particularly pleasant to recall.
Britain has had a large footprint for a long time so has a few more skeletons in the cupboard than most other nations.
Some seem to have very selective memories, a very poor education or possibly both.
Dont forget Big Daddy Idi Amin,he was a half Pom wasn't he? No? Well anyway he loved the Queen lol.Perhaps, but it is true.
There are episodes in the history of most nations that are not particularly pleasant to recall.
Britain has had a large footprint for a long time so has a few more skeletons in the cupboard than most other nations.
Some seem to have very selective memories, a very poor education or possibly both.
The word you used repeatedly was “ thick”.It may be something of a technicality, but being invited by the Irish is not quite the same thing.
Yes. Not an employee of Britain. Unlike an Irishman who succeeded him.
Not an employee of the UK
Your point being that the natives of that area preferred the status quo ante where they were continually raided and trafficked across the Arabian Sea as slaves by the Sultanate of Zanzibar?
Make your mind up, either it was wrong that we supported privatising them (you object to the private ownership of land and property and are a communist?), or wrong to have annexed them (that they would have been better left to their private owners)? Very little of the British Empire was acquired by force of arms, except when taken off other European powers ...e.g. Gibraltar.
The unfashionable fact is that in most cases the British were an improvement on the alternatives.
No we didn't, and they didn't. Where did you learn or invent this ...er....collection of opinions?
I don't remember calling you "dumb" but I won't dispute your qualification.
there are too many people these days that want to make something of..........it was a ripping movie btw and passed the censor.You also indulged yourself with racial slurs.
The island of Ireland has always been considered a single entity. 32 counties.Someone certainly has a selective memory on expansionism. Ireland having spent much of the late twentieth century trying to acquire part of the UK by force and perhaps maintaining an expansionist claim in its constitution?
What I said was that I didn't believe there was a significant difference, it was you who believed that there was a such a great difference as to make you thick. I have to admit I've seen little evidence you were wrong though.The word you used repeatedly was “ thick”.
I certainly did not. I am confident in this because not only am I not generally in the habit of using racial slurs but I am particularly not in the habit of using racial slurs against myself.You also indulged yourself with racial slurs.
You actually did use racially abusive language, and now you are trying to deflect attention from your lack of knowledge of your own history.What I said was that I didn't believe there was a significant difference, it was you who believed that there was a such a great difference as to make you thick. I have to admit I've seen little evidence you were wrong though.
I certainly did not. I am confident in this because not only am I not generally in the habit of using racial slurs but I am particularly not in the habit of using racial slurs against myself.
If you want to point fingers point it to the West over that big bit of water, on a separate note Dad took me fishing from Fenit 2 years running 72/73 we never went again as the comments by the young locals in the pub/b&b made him not go for a third trip, 2 builder friends took our space on the boat with the landlord knocking on their room saying " I have called a taxi, send me a cheque for the room and go out the window as they want blood"Perhaps, but it is true.
There are episodes in the history of most nations that are not particularly pleasant to recall.
Britain has had a large footprint for a long time so has a few more skeletons in the cupboard than most other nations.
Some seem to have very selective memories, a very poor education or possibly both.
Dear me. Settle down old lad. You'll rupture your truss otherwise....I’m the one looking down on your torso .
Go troll someone else, you need the practice.
No it hasn't, as you know.The island of Ireland has always been considered a single entity. 32 counties.
I have an inkling that the Irish government might also be involved in maintaining this division from the rest of the British Isles.Britain divided it in 1922 ( I think) creating NI , dividing it legislatively from the rest of the island and maintains that division to this day .
...except for Northern Ireland.You set up the border and you refuse to reconvene the border commission to review the boundary despite your signed agreement to do so.
We have spent 600 years defending our independence and disputing Britains right to sovereignty in our country.
We have never claimed sovereignty over any part of the UK outside our own island.
My English or my Irish history? In either case, there's apparently little to be learned from you.(Except for Rockall. And we have ceded that claim.)
You are obviously not well informed about your own history.
Which was acquired by treaty. And as you often like to say in other contexts, you can't row back on a treaty - it's legally binding.Don’t try telling me that it is Irish history and irrelevant.
You have been claiming sovereignty over the whole territory for 600 years
Quite correctly and democratically.and you are still claiming sovereignty over NI.
I know that.Our history is yours.
What on earth is the relevance of this question?Are/were you a schoolteacher?
Tell him you are a Priest lol....same relevance.What on earth is the relevance of this question?
I categorically did not, and if I were in your shoes and perhaps a touch brighter, I'd tend to avoid making libellous claims.You actually did use racially abusive language
Well, so far all that has been revealed is that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm certainly learning no history from you, and I don't really feel the need for a crash course in puerile Irish nationalist propaganda., and now you are trying to deflect attention from your lack of knowledge of your own history.
This is you
I’m the one looking down on your torso .
Go troll someone else, you need the practice.
OK, I'm not much of a betting man. What are the stakes?Finally, are you now, or have you ever been, a schoolteacher?
I’m betting yes.
someone could research the threads and see which derailed the quickest. I`m willing to bet that there are some derailed in 3 posts...or less.I do love a good derailing lol . We went from trying to recruit new hunters to the above in less than 10 posts . I think that's a new record .
AB
Don't mention the Rugby....oh why notI do love a good derailing lol . We went from trying to recruit new hunters to the above in less than 10 posts . I think that's a new record .
AB
Dont mention trips to AsiaDon't mention the Rugby....
You appear to have got caught up in the post Bloody Sunday frenzy.If you want to point fingers point it to the West over that big bit of water, on a separate note Dad took me fishing from Fenit 2 years running 72/73 we never went again as the comments by the young locals in the pub/b&b made him not go for a third trip, 2 builder friends took our space on the boat with the landlord knocking on their room saying " I have called a taxi, send me a cheque for the room and go out the window as they want blood"
They took their passports and what they stood up in down a drain pipe in the taxi to Shannon APT and never went back.
So you can poke you comments as they just wanted to go fishing
I was 11 at the time so just a child and subject to that.
No we didn't just a Dad and his son on fishing trips to Eire with your local youths who will be in their 70+ wanting to harm people.You appear to have got caught up in the post Bloody Sunday frenzy.
Apologies, it shouldn’t have happened.