Any Volvo XC60 owners? Advice please!

mikeakc

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Hi all,
I'm considering swapping my older X-trail in for a Volvo XC60 (2014/5 ish) as they have a decent sized boot, good mpg for my commute into town and are AWD. Has anyone got any experience of them off road? I'll be bouncing across the occasional field and recovering deer on fairly steep Cornish farmland up to a couple of times a week.

I'm advised by car dealers (who have never driven off road in their lives) that auto will be just as capable as manual. Has anyone got any experience of this please? Any thoughts appreciated.

Cheers, Mike
 
Having driven an automatic 4x4 extensively off road I would say that I prefer an auto.
Hill starts are a doddle especially in snow, low speed driving is easy as you don't have to ride the clutch and almost impossible to stall.
The only downside is that if you have to do a steep decent it seems that you are going too fast even when on low box and locked into first gear.
I presume the Volvo doesn't have a transfer box but it probably had all sorts of electronic gadgets such as hill decent to help you out.
 
Really interesting and not what I was expecting to hear. An auto XC60 or just an auto in general? I do fancy an auto as I do multiple 8hr runs from Cornwall to North Norfolk each year. Thanks Husky.
 
I will also only have auto now and do a fair bit of off road work. Had a discovery td5 and now an Amarok and never thought a manual would have coped better in any situation
Even if stuck in a rut and need to rock forward and back they will change gear quickly enough to do it
 
It was an automatic Discovery 1, and when I say steep hill off road I mean really steep, something you wouldn't consider in a Volvo or similar.
I also had a auto Impreza for a while, driving on roads with a auto is so much more relaxing, I have even considered converting my Defender to an automatic.
Also towing a trailer with a auto is great especially on windy single track roads.
 
Auto’s are great off road. For a start off if it needs another gear there’s no break whilst a clutch goes in; the next gear is just taken.
 
Our XC60 (2011) was auto and worked really well, both on long road journeys (here to France and back a couple of times a year) and also in mud and snow. I did swap out the P-Zeros fo Scorpion Verde all season as soon as.I could, but do that on all my family cars. We swapped that out for a Touareg in 2015. V6 better than the Volvo v5, but software and auto box not as good for at least the first 3 years of updates :)

My cars is a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. Auto, shitty box in itself, but great off road and very controllable. Wouldn’t go back to a manual for either family or fun car now.

Mark
 
The ONLY disadvantage of autos (and I have and do drive both autos and manuals) is in deep water; in the park I used to manage is a river fordable in only 2 places at most times. When in exhaust covering depth of water the best policy is to slip the clutch and to keep the engine revs higher in order that the back pressure should not cut the engine. This is impossible in an auto. In similar vein if the water is sufficiently deep to risk floating and losing traction then more than once I have gone along slipping the clutch until I was floating at which point I was then able to reverse out and [after a long detour] to get to where I needed to be eventually. I read this thread because I am also thinking of getting an XC60 or 70 and wanted to read the other comments. Everybody whom I know who has one, including a local mechanic, speaks very highly of them for reliability, comfort and economy. It simply will not have the grunt or comfort of my A6 allroad for long journeys - eg Kent to Easter Ross or here to the Strasbourg or Beaune areas in France. To mikeakc I say Thank you for starting the thread.
 
Have a new XC60. Absolutely happy with it. It has an offroad mode which locks the diffs and helps in mud. Clearance seems ok. I haven't taken it anywhere too challenging - up an Alp in France was the most interesting. I think that descent control is the key thing that allows autos to be a sensible offroad choice.

U.
 
When I considered retiring properly, I swopped my LR D4 for a Volvo XC60 based purely on the difference between the 30 mpg of my D4 and the advertised MPG of 60 for the Volvo XC60 D5.
Nice comfortable ride, had a bit of off road use, grass on steep hills managed that quite well but the MPG was worse than my LR.
I took it back to the dealer to have it checked because of the bad MPG and was told I had to run the new engine in !!!
After 4k miles and still not getting very good mpg I got rid of it at a very great loss in ££££'s.
So I went back to another LR D4 and on long runs got 34 mpg.
Incidentally, being a member of BASC, I investigated the discounts advertised for vehicles and found that the dealer could give me me a bigger discount than could be got by going through BASC.
 
For what it's worth, I get an absolute max of 40 mpg - light right foot, long journey, from my XC60 T5 petrol. More typical is 35mpg on long journeys, and high 20s if I'm doing lots of miles in town.

U.
 
I have experience of the Volvos in diesel auto trim. The auto box is fine unless, as already said above, deep fording is in the mix, which from what you say it won't be. The XC is really an on road car and more soft roader. I considered another but looking back on the running costs and drawbacks (including really quite poor road handling...too much body roll and weight) of my first one I decided against it and had a think about the reality of need and use. In my case 90 to 95% of my use is on road or gravel tracks so a full on 4x4 was just not a sensible choice. I decided to keep my RX450awd which we've had as the main family car for a few years now (it's fine across fields and surprisingly capable except in wet conditions) as that makes for a superb and comfortable road vehicle and to buy a good used Jap soft roader for local running about and off road work.

The things about all these soft roaders compared with 4wd is that many don't have the clearance or 4wd systems (or tyres) to make them much good for anything but occasional trips across fields. If steep hills are in the equation, you're best advised sticking to a much smaller and lighter 4x4 and fitting a decent set of mud tyres. Having some experience of several of these including a mates 2.5 Vitara (excellent off road) I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the Vitara as a really genuinely capable 4x4 as it has a proper low gear ratio box and a ladder chassis in the older ones, so is up to the job with good tyres. Loads of people also rate the Subaru Forester very highly for it's clever AWD system which is the match for many proper 4x4s but there's several issue with any I've looked at including awful mpg and under-chassis rust for any in the affordable (plus 10yr old) range. That goes for many Japanese cars though as they simply don't protect them enough for UK climate and salted winter roads. Find a good one and it's a great choice.

When it came down to my choice, after having bought and rejected one Vitara that was extensively corroded underneath, I plumped for either a Forester in decent condition or a Rav4. The Rav is an interesting option as people discount them too quickly. They have the advantage of being cheap to buy and run, loads of load space in the 5dr, the early ones have permanent 4wd and auto centre diff-lock and you can buy riser kits (40mm) cheaply, fit good mud tyres and they'll go places an XC60 simply will not. It's simply too big and heavy and has an awd system more designed for variable road or track conditions rather than off road. The little Rav in Mk2 guise also had revisions including a more powerful engine, a very low (almost crawler-like) first gear, which I have tried as a descent control on a steep bank recently (only had the car a few weeks) and it worked just fine. Given the choice though, if I could have found a really tidy forester of similar age and money (between £2K and £3K) I'd say that would be the better bet and just put up with poor mpg. As a second vehicle it doesn't matter. I have though been very surprised and impressed with just how capable the little Rav has been so far. In your shoes though where steep banks are concerned if you can find a decent one then the Forester, Vitara or Jimny would all work better I think.

Drawbacks of the Vitara and Jimny imho is that they're not great on road (the Rav is fabulous by comparison). They're noisy, vague on the steering and not especially comfortable for longer trips. Out of the soft roader bunch the Forester is better all round I think than any other but failing to find a good one, I think that the Rav has been the best choice for me. I looked at the X trails and they simply don't have the clearance...have you seen how low the back box is on those? Their diesel engines are built by Renault and seem to have a reputation for being very costly when they go wrong (rather than if) but a shooter mate likes his for his field work. If you do buy an X trail, then the petrol is the safer bet but you will run into ground clearance issues.

Try before you buy if you can. I would also just add that in terms of running costs, reliability and as a mostly road going SUV, the Lexus RX450h fsport we have now bettered the XC60 in just about every area. More powerful (300BHP with combined 3.5 V6 and electric hybrid system...off the line it goes like stink!), more comfortable (for me anyway) and more reliable. Zero issues in 35K miles. MPG for both is low to mid 30's in the real world, high 20's on shorter trips. The RX handles better (much better) even though it's actually heavier, has great ground clearance (we used it across some very rutted fields over the past few years on camping trips and it's been great) but it doesn't have the XC's load space.
 
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I have 66 plate D5 diesel manual, 36mpg light footed, lovely to drive, spacious and comfy. Tows well and plenty of power.
4x4 system is great, all electronic and keeps the wheels on the ground moving and flicking between spinning wheels to keep you going.
Ground clearance is not to bad.
Its not an off road vehicle but quite capable over rough terrain and fields no bother.
Tyres are what keep you moving off road, all 4x4s would struggle on eco Road tyres.
Great as a comfy estate and occasional off road trip through field and forest.
If you want off road, get a land
Just my thoughts
 
2010 xc60 great out in the fields. I use a manual one for going about the estate and with the heated seats it’s a dream come true, you’ll also find the wing mirrors are perfect height for a rifle rest of out lamping 😬👍🏻
I have winter tyres fitted to it and never had a problem with getting stuck
 

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Tyres will be key. My brother in law has put 100,000 plus miles onto an XC60 without a hitch. Other friends have had the old XC90 - really good strong vehicle, replaced by the new XC90 which I have seen going up steep wet pasture on standard tyres. A bit of a run up and no issue. But the new one like most modern cars are driven by touch screens - which I think are really distracting and horrible.

Decent winter tyres work well on mud. And carry a set of snow chains as well for when you need lots of traction.
 
There's some decent all season all terrain offerings these days. To get the best off road though they need some pressure let out. I carry a Ring tyre compressor with me these days as it only takes a few minutes to re-inflate each corner when time to get back on the road. Plenty of people have recommended Insa Turbo mud tyres as a cheap mud tyre that works well, as well as the usual suspects (Grabber MTs and BFG KM2s). for the minute I'm giving some Geolander 015s a go. They're not strong enough for serious off-road (especially harder terrain) on heavier vehicles but I'm told work better on lighter 4x4s.
 
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