I often speak with serving and retired In the same vein, not been wearing bracelets yet 
BASC Interpretation of yesterday's speech & Stalking
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Roestalker39
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I really wouldnât rejoin mate that chip on your shoulder will cause you problems , I know a lot of police officers Mostly very nice blokes but Iâll garuntee you No keyboard warrior here , nothing Iâd say here I wouldnât say in the flesh , good luck
I never âdeployâ, I just âGo outâ ...., my youngest lad used to deploy, but then he was in the Green.
Stalker62
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You may be right about re-joining (my wife certainly agrees with you). I hope I do not have a "chip on my shoulder", it just saddens me to see the shooting community lash out at other sections of society when those sections of society are part of the same shooting community.
Stalker62
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You will be rightly proud of him.
I have worked with many Police officers, in partnership and on emergency planning and actual emergency situations. There was someone who was more critical of his fellow officers than I was - he was an ACE and really excellent chap who I admired.
The term 'Police Officer' carries no special moral distinction or guarantee of intelligence as the Police are representative of the population as a whole and there are some real twits in that. I like to be known for honesty and have told officers face to face that they have 'no special gifts'. Take those retired officers at BASC for example, or rather one in particular.
The term 'Police Officer' carries no special moral distinction or guarantee of intelligence as the Police are representative of the population as a whole and there are some real twits in that. I like to be known for honesty and have told officers face to face that they have 'no special gifts'. Take those retired officers at BASC for example, or rather one in particular.
For me a Copper is a Copper or a Bobby. We had a village Copper who was quite happy to be referred to as that. He jokingly used to say "I prefer Bobby, as after all the Manor house in this village was built by Sir Robert Peel". A great bloke who saved a lot of us kids from going the wrong way in life.
Stalker62
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When I moved to London I worked in a bar at a big hospital. The local "Copper" was dating the barmaid and would often pop in (in uniform) at last knockings to have a pint whilst he waited for his girlfriend to finish her shift.
He asked me for a pint and I dutifully pulled him - what I thought was a perfect pint.
I passed it across to him and him whispered conspiratorially at me, "Do you think you could squeeze a large whisky into that?"
Fresh to London and the ways of the world, I thought it was some Cockney custom. I relied "Yes of course".
His response (suggesting I had pulled a short pint) was my introduction to London Policing:- "In that case fill it up with fing beer".
To be fair he had a point.
Rozzers. All the same...
Orion
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We are all in strange and testing times but I think you need to take a deep breath and lighten up a bit. In my part of Sarf Lunnon, where I grew up and worked, the slang terms for police were many and varied and often of ancient origin, (and more often than not said with a degree of respect, familiarity and/or humour attached). Rozzer, peeler, bobbie, and probably others can all be traced back to Sir Robert Peel. Iâve always used them, even when in the job, (P Div Met) and probably always will. I doubt thereâs any malice intended when slang terms are used and I certainly donât consider them derogatory, (Iâll make an exception when referring to brain dead FEOs and coppers wearing the latest whatever alphabet group sponsored rainbow epaulets and laces but thatâs another story).
Anyhow, well done for stepping up and putting yourself forward in these times of need.
(An avenue I suspect not available for the likes of myself after âparkingâ the Det. Suptâs official car on top of a lamppost one night - the Black Rats didnât see the funny side of it, but we had a giggle). 
As many have said, the terms Plod or Rozzers or Blue Bottle even (Lancashire) are, in my view, terms of pleasant familiarity rather than derision.
What started the slide was the use of the word 'pigs' from the USA - not a term used in UK.
What can cause problems is when some officer /civilian thinking he/she is an officer, claims special knowledge, e.g of the HO Guidance / parking issues that many officers have never seen or read. In that case being an 'officer' is insufficient justification for being a prig and wrong, and brings all police officers a little lower in public estimation.
I find individual officers often survive this generalised criticism by virtue of their own character/ or not.
lets just say
People should be carefull of there answers to certain members ( not you M7)
Coz you never know who your giving shite too , and it could come back and bite you on the arse
Kjf
Magnificent 7
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Yes I'd say so buddy I've heard some dreadful tales about someone upsetting folk on sites like these and then it being used against them to revoke there tickets sad really but they walk among us and sadly taint a lot of peoples views about our emergency services forums like these soon light the blue touch paper of some people who are normally really good folk it only takes that one I was bullied at school and I'll show you type of a person and the recent guy loses out
ChesterP
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My old chap, who sadly passed away a year back now, was a policeman, and a true gent. He was old school, a country bobby and one of the first on Royal protection duties at Highgrove. He was a broad Yorkshireman with impeccable integrity and honesty who found himself in N Ireland when his parents moved there whilst he was just an 18 yr old. Long story short, he becomes one of the first commissioned officers in the UDR, the regiment who took over from the corrupted and murderous B specials, as a new British army regiment. Now you can imagine the stick he got for being English within the ranks, and without, but worst still he was a Catholic too so won few friends on any side but carried on regardless and with some considerable guts it has to be said. He was also mentioned in dispatches on one occasion. Long story short, after suffering terrible abuse for his position there and us becoming an IRA target, we were all moved at a moment's notice back to England where army intelligence fixed him up with a police position pending successfully completing training which he did.
He then went on to put up with close on 20 years abuse being called "pig", "filth", "scum" and worse but kept his head down and did his job. We once talked about the things he disliked and oddly enough the one word he reacted to was being called "Copper". He could put up with being called "pig" and "scum" because it was the other side, the criminal element who used that language as par for the course so the police expect that. "Copper" or "Plod" were both deemed derogatory because it was those on the side of the law as well as those on the other side who used it, and there was something a bit disrespectful for a country bobby to have someone in a pub, off duty say things like "here comes the copper". I've been with him when it was said and it's not at all like the banter that you might expect in London or somewhere. There was a difference. At least then there was. I had more respect for him and for others in his position and I think still do. I've been called far worse and sometimes on here
...possibly deservedly so at the time.
We come from many different backgrounds on here, like all forums, so it's healthy I think to hear the other person's take on these things. As far as to the term "deploy" to describe going shooting, last time I "deployed" I don't think it was for deer but it was when an L1A1-SLR was in my mitts....
He then went on to put up with close on 20 years abuse being called "pig", "filth", "scum" and worse but kept his head down and did his job. We once talked about the things he disliked and oddly enough the one word he reacted to was being called "Copper". He could put up with being called "pig" and "scum" because it was the other side, the criminal element who used that language as par for the course so the police expect that. "Copper" or "Plod" were both deemed derogatory because it was those on the side of the law as well as those on the other side who used it, and there was something a bit disrespectful for a country bobby to have someone in a pub, off duty say things like "here comes the copper". I've been with him when it was said and it's not at all like the banter that you might expect in London or somewhere. There was a difference. At least then there was. I had more respect for him and for others in his position and I think still do. I've been called far worse and sometimes on here
...possibly deservedly so at the time.We come from many different backgrounds on here, like all forums, so it's healthy I think to hear the other person's take on these things. As far as to the term "deploy" to describe going shooting, last time I "deployed" I don't think it was for deer but it was when an L1A1-SLR was in my mitts....
I. Farticus
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Subject: NGO seeks clarification on firearms advice from Thames Valley Police
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NGO seeks clarification on firearms advice from Thames Valley Police
The NGO has been contacted by some of its members over the past few days about advice being issued by Thames Valley Police with regards to shooting in England.
The NGO has today (Monday 18 May) contacted the Thames Valley Police Firearms Licensing Manager and they have confirmed that their position has been updated and is as follows:
Our advice for all certificate holders is to comply with the Government guidelines. Thames Valley Police will not be taking action in respect of shooting activities on shooting grounds, or private land, provided the activities are otherwise licensed and lawful. We urge anyone considering taking part in such activities to comply fully with the current government guidance about the conditions on which outdoor recreation may take place. If you do not heed this advice and are found in circumstances where your activities could result in the emergency services being called out or that suggest a danger to public safety or to the peace, this may result in consideration being given to the revocation of your certificate/s.
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Tel: 01833 660 869
Email: info@nationalgamekeepers.org.uk
Theyâre a bit late to the party!
The advice was updated as of last Friday, following discussions Between TVP/FELWG and BDS/BSSC.
Roestalker39
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Basc welcomes ?
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