tackb
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Your not silly its a common assumption , being able to release a shot well is obviously important but to do that you need to focus and not be worrying about wind changes etc
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Your not silly its a common assumption , being able to release a shot well is obviously important but to do that you need to focus and not be worrying about wind changes etc
Just goes to show how good the F Class FTR and Target guys are no wind callers for them
Wow, i I was a fairly good shot, I regularly shoot fox out to 300 m, but a fox at 400 yards with iron sights... I'm impressed!
Do they get sighters?
tackb
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I wonder how many targets get gut shot ?
LOL.
But seriously, I'm with Southern on this one.
Hunting/stalking using your knowledge of the game and skills in getting as close as possible is my method.
One of my most memorable experiences hunting was calling in a big bull elk during high rut. He was about 20 yards away and started bugling. My skin felt detached, hair raised all over my body and I got quite emotional--damn near a spiritual experience.
I know that the "long-range hunter" will never have as fulfilling of an experience as this.
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The last time I hunted in South Dakota I was lying prone in foot-high stubble when a herd of elk came up from the canyon behind me and passed 30 ft to my right. Cows, immature bulls at the start. Then fork horns. They were all milling about me. There was bugling going on in all of the canyons and suddenly the sound of breaking tree limbs VERY close by; which turned out to be two gargantuan bulls fighting with horns locked. The pushed and whirled and got so close they were tossing clods of dirt over me as I lay there, immobile. I could smell them and hear their grunts. I had goose bumps and a rush of sheer adrenaline. There is nothing like being close up.~Muir
Foxshot, I tried and tried to call those coyotes closer, and the fox I just saw on the other side of the field, heading up onto the woods, yelled and got him to stop and look. The ones I remember best are calling them in, running into my lap.
As for marksmanship, look at the 1-inch X ring on a 100 yard smallbore target. That's what you have to nail, offhand, to win matches. Shooting a .22 on game like pigeons and crows at 100+ yards is good practice for judging distance and doping wind with a big centerfire rifle.
A lot of mountain hunting, like in Pennsylvania and New York, is big hardwoods. In NC, SC, and TN, it is that and also thick in places. And the coasts of Oregon, Washington and British Columbia are steep, and dense, dark evergreens. As Canadian1 and Muir said, you may jump a giant bull elk at 10 yards. Or walk around a bend in a logging road to find a steaming pile of grizzly bear scat. As you ease back down around that bend, you see his fresh tracks, where he circled you and cut your trail, without making a sound. Give me that any day over a 300 yard shot at a bedded ram.
As for marksmanship, look at the 1-inch X ring on a 100 yard smallbore target. That's what you have to nail, offhand, to win matches. Shooting a .22 on game like pigeons and crows at 100+ yards is good practice for judging distance and doping wind with a big centerfire rifle.
A lot of mountain hunting, like in Pennsylvania and New York, is big hardwoods. In NC, SC, and TN, it is that and also thick in places. And the coasts of Oregon, Washington and British Columbia are steep, and dense, dark evergreens. As Canadian1 and Muir said, you may jump a giant bull elk at 10 yards. Or walk around a bend in a logging road to find a steaming pile of grizzly bear scat. As you ease back down around that bend, you see his fresh tracks, where he circled you and cut your trail, without making a sound. Give me that any day over a 300 yard shot at a bedded ram.
Aye they do get sighters but you can convert them to your score,remember the v bull on F.class and
FTR is half MOA when i shot F class my object was to hit the bull 1st round thats what got me into long range shooting
I have shot Sika coming for me in heavy cover at well under 10yds. Yes it is exiting. The problem I have with that type of shooting is difficult frontal shots at a moving animal. Fully adrenaline pumped up deer which might affect the meat quality.....and what for? a little excitement on our side? How selfish. For me a clean surgical 200yd shot off a bipod at an unaware grazing deer is the way to go. The rest of the deer can move off without stumbling into me and when all is clear I get the animal.
I do understand that in some parts of the world some hunters might only have the permit to shoot very few or maybe even only one deer a year and might want a special kick out of the experience to tell in the pub. I still think if we have to manage deer numbers, do it right for the animals not for ones own pleasure. Those who prioritise the own pleasure ("Kick") be it through overly long shots or the ultra close shots...should not be after deer in my opinion. In those cases we should leave deer management to professionals for the sake of animal welfare.
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I do understand that in some parts of the world some hunters might only have the permit to shoot very few or maybe even only one deer a year and might want a special kick out of the experience to tell in the pub. I still think if we have to manage deer numbers, do it right for the animals not for ones own pleasure. Those who prioritise the own pleasure ("Kick") be it through overly long shots or the ultra close shots...should not be after deer in my opinion. In those cases we should leave deer management to professionals for the sake of animal welfare.
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Thanks Shuggie
I am very flattered that Darren says such things !! - and theres me thinking he thought i was a Cornish pasty munching softie!!! lol
Any yes it would be lovely to meet up one day - like to have good ole nose at this Boo Boo
Oh yes i took the below photo this morning after stalking for you - shows the Biathlon type sling that i use!!
It has a quick release clips on both sides of the sling which is silent in use!!!
All the very best ,
Ray.
ejg, getting to "whites of their eyes close" is not about shooting everything you flush, or see. In bow hunting or handgun hunting, you pretty much have to get within 30 yards. I have shot deer with a .357 handgun at 80 and 90 yards, but it was for a wildlife biologist and botanist who were assessing deer on a heavily populated sea island. That is, for me, like shooting them at 400 yards with a rifle - not sport. The ones I stalked to 20 and 30 yards were.
Getting close is a test of your stalking skills. It is like flushing quail or grouse; you don't shoot every rime. Even if you are good enough to drop passing ducks at 60 yards, it is a fringe shot, and so much more fun to crouch with your dog and watch him watch the ducks set their wings to you call, they buy it, and glide in to your decoy set.
Getting close is a test of your stalking skills. It is like flushing quail or grouse; you don't shoot every rime. Even if you are good enough to drop passing ducks at 60 yards, it is a fringe shot, and so much more fun to crouch with your dog and watch him watch the ducks set their wings to you call, they buy it, and glide in to your decoy set.
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Hell yes.
I was in the Valle Vidal Wilderness in Northern New Mexico on a special draw hunt and encountered a huge, cinnamon black bear at about 30 yards. He came up over a pile of rocks and bounced on his front paws and roared with froth coming from his mouth. I'd never seen anything like that before, nor since. It was exhilarating! There was nothing between me and him but 90 feet of ground, my 30-40 Krag Jorgensen, and the question as to which of us would blink first. He ran off one way and I walked off the other...~Muir
Thanks Shuggie
I am very flattered that Darren says such things !! - and theres me thinking he thought i was a Cornish pasty munching softie!!! lol
Any yes it would be lovely to meet up one day - like to have good ole nose at this Boo Boo
It has a quick release clips on both sides of the sling which is silent in use!!!
All the very best ,
Ray.
Tell me that's not the rig you would use mountain hunting! And, why would you let someone photograph you while taking a pee??
~Muirinterceptor
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lol - like that!!Tell me that's not the rig you would use mountain hunting! And, why would you let someone photograph you while taking a pee??
Modern phones have timers on them - quite handy or not handy lol
Yea still young and fit to be carrying it around - ask me in another 10 years if i still do!!!
lol - like that!!
Modern phones have timers on them - quite handy or not handy lol
Yea still young and fit to be carrying it around - ask me in another 10 years if i still do!!!
Modern technology!
Young & Fit or not, where I hunt that rig could get you killed. It would be very difficult to physically maneuver that amount gear through the timber and along the trails. I found a magnificent canyon to hunt mule deer in last November but to get to it I had to sidestep along a snow covered track about 18" wide while hanging onto the rock ledge on the up-hill side, to avoid the short steep slope leading to a 200 ft drop on the down-hill side. This in 20 mph winds @ -2F on the thermometer. I had a short day pack with survival gear and a seven-pound 7mm-08 and it was still difficult, to say the least.
I may not have youth on my side but at the gym I can bench press #300 and leg press #800 in sets. I still carry a 7 pound rifle.
~Muirinterceptor
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Respect!!!Modern technology!
Young & Fit or not, where I hunt that rig could get you killed. It would be very difficult to physically maneuver that amount gear through the timber and along the trails. I found a magnificent canyon to hunt mule deer in last November but to get to it I had to sidestep along a snow covered track about 18" wide while hanging onto the rock ledge on the up-hill side, to avoid the short steep slope leading to a 200 ft drop on the down-hill side. This in 20 mph winds @ -2F on the thermometer. I had a short day pack with survival gear and a seven-pound 7mm-08 and it was still difficult, to say the least.
I may not have youth on my side but at the gym I can bench press #300 and leg press #800 in sets. I still carry a 7 pound rifle.
provarmint
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That's nothing, Ray can eat four pasties in one go!
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