BFG TYRES

[Jon P]

I have used BFG on my vehicles for years, never really had a problem with them with grip on the road- Did get a bit of tyre rumble when they wear down 3/4 of tread. I have just bought a new to me Mitsubishi L200 from a dealer, which had poor road tyres on it. In the deal I wanted new tyres , he would not put BFG on so ended up with theses, Road X RXQuest AT21. Can’t see them lasting as long as BFG or gripping so well in the mud. But nice and quiet on the road.

 

[Skietindiekop]

On anything permanent 4WD I have found them to handle really well but rear drive only pickups when empty are not good. BUT all rear drive light weight rear vehicles handle like this unless grippy road tyres are fitted.
Anyone who owned a Capri or Rover 3500 back in the days of no traction control knew that wet weather driving was either entertaining or scary. Eventually I always carried two big sandbags after ****ting a wheel on a kerb

 

[takbok]

I've run BFG ATs on most of my vehicles - 99% of the time the issue of lack of grip in the wet is over inflation. I've pretty much always run mine on the road around 30psi and haven't really had an oh S**t moments by accident( had a few when I've fancied a play though).......

Agree re tyre pressure.

I managed fine with BFG AT's on my last car - I could slide it or lock up front wheels if I tried, but didn't feel dangerous. I think pressure was around 28psi.

I've got BFG MT's on my car now and run them at 18psi - no shortage of grip, and very well behaved on the road.

 

[Phil fox man]

I've had these on for 4 years now,no problems in the wet but I don't drive fast though.i had grabbers on before and had a few " moments" in the wet with them.also they are wider and taller than standard size.
phil.

 

[olliehopes]

Agree re tyre pressure.

I managed fine with BFG AT's on my last car - I could slide it or lock up front wheels if I tried, but didn't feel dangerous. I think pressure was around 28psi.

I've got BFG MT's on my car now and run them at 18psi - no shortage of grip, and very well behaved on the road.

Trouble is people see a big 4x4 tyre and think it needs lots of air in it - they don't! most tractors are running no more than 18 psi in the rears!

 

[Heym SR20]

Most pickup trucks are solid rear axles, leaf springs and on road use are a rear wheel drive vehicle.

This is 1940’s perhaps 1950’s tecnology. Tyres are better, and engines more but on a wet greasy road they will slide the back end.

The suspension is hard, and pressures in the tyres are often quite high so the tyres are jiggling up and down loosing grip all the time. Add in a bit of speed, a loose or slippy surface and around the go.

Back in the day when Capri, Mk2 Escorts, flair jeans, nylon shirts, mullets and moustaches were cool that’s how cars were, and that’s how you learnt to drive.

Tyres will help and correct pressures even more so, but it is the inherent nature of a truck.

Quite why most trucks don’t have a centre differential with permanent all wheel drive I do not know. Land rover had this in the early 1970’s with Range Rover and put it on the 90 and 110 in mid 1980’s. Permanent all wheel drive makes such a vehicle so much safer.

But a lot of trucks around the world are driven by poorly trained employee drivers. Give them permanent 4x4 and a powerful engine on the sorts of roads these sorts of vehicles - they will just crash. Better to keep them 2wd with lower powered engines and make them twitch even on a straight road and frighten them to keeping speeds down.

 

[Whitefront]

I have had BFG All Terrains on my pickups for years. They are excellent. Any pickup without a load in the back will get a bit light at the backend if driven too fast around corners. They aren't supposed to be normal cars. On my current Hilux, two BFGs lasted 67K miles, the other two still have 6mm of tread left at more than 70k miles. A stalker I know of changed his pickup tyres to a cheap brand because he felt he couldn't afford BFGs, but rapidly regretted it when he started getting punctures on gravel forest roads.

 

[Olaf]

Difference is most Japanese stuff and a lot of pickup type 4x4s are rear wheel drive unless 4wd is selected the pickups are light on the rear end as well all that leads to shitty handling on wet and greasy rds

Spot on, an empty pickup that’s designed to hold weight equals a very twitchy rear wheel drive. A Problem many people will have , as they drive around with an empty pick up ( why do they even own a pickup?) is that its
rear wheel drive and all the vehicle weight is up front if the back isn’t being used to carry stuff. I think a lot of people have a pickup and expect 4x4 handling when it’s 2 wheel drive in normal road mode and designed to carry weight in the back.
I drive a Hilux MK 6 with BFG all terrain tyres and it drives exactly how I tell it too. I think they are brilliant tyres and worth every penny compared to some of the crap I’ve driven with/ on in the past. That said, I’ve normally got 3-400kg of load in and on the back or I’m towing a 3.5 tonne tipper trailer full of wood or a couple of tonnes of plant machinery.
I was driving on some solid packed ice and snow roads for the past few weeks as I’m working in Germany. Obviously , I had the Hilux in 4x4 mode and it did extremely well. On some trips though I only had a few bits and bobs and a chainsaw in the back and I had to drive carefully owing to Less road grip , but I was still nicely in control all of the time. However, I think I might have struggled if I was a crap incapable driver .

I suspect those questioning the suitability/performance of BFG AT’s do not have a set on a LR Defender, but rather some 4X4 racing snake of Japanese manufacture that is capable of wheel spins at traffic lights even without aftermarket Carlos Fandango wheel arches and light bars.

K

Löve it !
Kindest regards, Olaf

 

[Lateral]

Amarok 2.0L. Started off with BFG AT's, but struggled in some conditions, so switched to BFG MT's.

VERY rarely do I have an issue with grip in the wet, spilt diesel is another thing

Also, I guess that one mans "I was only driving slowly", is another mans white knuckle ride ! And I guess, some people drive more smoothly, and have a better feel when they're on the edge of grip.

If I don't change the Amarok soon, I'll be needing a new set of tires. I don't do the Green Lanes, like I used to, so I'll probably look at AT's again.

 

[Otto68]

Ive always used the BFG’s but last time round tried the General Grabbers AT3’s and mates were warning me how bad they were in the wet.. but on a Navara never had any issues at all.. prior to that had the BFG’s on a Hilux and it was horrible in the wet..

Like other posts, lethal on a hilux in wet, but noticeably different when a good load in very back of pick up, superb mileage with them.

 

[Olaf]

I suspect those questioning the suitability/performance of BFG AT’s do not have a set on a LR Defender, but rather some 4X4 racing snake of Japanese manufacture that is capable of wheel spins at traffic lights even without aftermarket Carlos Fandango wheel arches and light bars.

K

Here, I thought you might like this:



Kindest regards, Olaf

 

[HonestJohn]

Not so much with a heavy rear canopy and dogs and equipment in the back.
Not really much point in comparing a SWB Landy with a Jap pickup though. My experience is that BFG used to be decent, then they changed design and compound, and are now s**t. All based on the same truck owned over nine years.

correct. they moved production to far east and kept the prices, margins opened up, executives got fat bonuses, consumer is once again the bitch

 

[GIMLET61]

Run my Amarok 2.0L on General grabber currently as they are meant to run quieter than the BFGs I had previously.
After 20k of wear I have noticed road noise increasing and the arse can think its a Capri in the roundabout sometimes.

 

[VSS]

What are peoples opinion on above tyres on wet roads, I have a set on my Isuzu D-max 2021 plate and find that they are hopeless and quite dangerous if your not careful , I'm not a fast driver by any means but I'm going to change them to an A rated tyre for wet roads , have done some internet looking and quite fancy Pirelli scorpions all season SF2 as they have A rating, does anyone have them and what are there thoughts ,99% of my driving is on wet or dry roads with occasional forest track.

I have them on my Isuzu D-max.
BFG mud-terrain.
Poor to the point of being dangerous on wet roads.
Hopeless on wet grass and mud.
Excellent on loose shale / shingle / gravel and similar surfaces.

 

[pux]

I have BFG AT on my 2017 Navara, only time i find a bit of grip loss in the wet is when I am pushing it speed wise. Maybe the odd wheel spin when I pull out of junction! But you get a lot of miles out of these tyres compared to others, they never let me down in the fields either.

 

[VSS]

I should just add that I bought my D-max with the BFG tyres already fitted, and I've lost count of the number of times people have said "it looks good with those tyres", which I think sums up why people are buying these big bits of rubber: It's all about image, and nothing to do with performance.
For grip, the old narrow landover tyres are yet to be beaten, but wide tyres look "cool".

 

[landkeeper]

I should just add that I bought my D-max with the BFG tyres already fitted, and I've lost count of the number of times people have said "it looks good with those tyres", which I think sums up why people are buying these big bits of rubber: It's all about image, and nothing to do with performance.
For grip, the old narrow landover tyres are yet to be beaten, but wide tyres look "cool".

Lol bfg muds and ats come in narrow fitments too

 

[Donkey Basher]

I’m running 255/55R18 BFG KO2 A/T on the D2 & got to say that after initially being a bit under impressed with them they’ve now grown on me as I’ve learned how to get the best out of them. They’re not out & out mud pluggers & are wider than I’d have chosen but I picked a set up brand new & already fitted to D2 rims for less than half price. Overall I’m pleased with them, they get me from A to B on the road & so far have gone everywhere I need to when stalking/shooting.

Should add that the best off road tyres I’ve run over the years have been a set of 235/85R16 Michelin XZL on my Defender 90 & 110. They were the absolute ‘mutts’

 

[VSS]

Lol bfg muds and ats come in narrow fitments too

Ah, but do they look "cool"? That's what matters.

 

[landkeeper]

Water and power Utilities companies round here all mostly run bfg on their 4wd vehicles they take off the oem tyres as soon as the vehicles are delivered