I’d get a 1:7.5” 6.5 creedmoor or a 1:10” .308 for use in the UK as an all purpose rifle and use a local rifle when hunting abroad.
Calibre Advice for the 'all rounder'?
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Rusty Gate
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Some countries won’t allow military calibres in mind, worth looking into.
Not shot but fancy a 7mm-08, thought this had enough for all but may be corrected on this. Another plus is more rounds per kg of powder when reloading
big ears
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If you don't want to get a 30-06 (which would be my choice) then rather than a .308win consider the 7x57.
There are plenty of factory ammo out there. It is milder than the 308 and hits just as hard.
It’s a gentleman’s calibre that will cope with all you want to do without the fuss.
Just a thought.
BE
There are plenty of factory ammo out there. It is milder than the 308 and hits just as hard.
It’s a gentleman’s calibre that will cope with all you want to do without the fuss.
Just a thought.
BE
Thanks big ears, will look into that calibre.
Siggy
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If it wasn’t for feral pigs, for UK big game i would say 6.5 CM, low recoil, readily available and wide range of bullet options and delivers plenty of energy at stalking ranges.
If pigs are on the menu, I guess it would have to be .308, or maybe .270. (Recommended bullet weight is 150 grains and I don’t have a good understanding of the non-toxic 150 grain 270 options)
If only muntjac and CWD, 243 or 223.
If pigs are on the menu, I guess it would have to be .308, or maybe .270. (Recommended bullet weight is 150 grains and I don’t have a good understanding of the non-toxic 150 grain 270 options)
If only muntjac and CWD, 243 or 223.
Thanks Siggy. I have had opportunity on feral pigs before so would like that option..... so that steers me down the route I'm on I think. Have applied for two calibres with the police at present so will see how I get on.
SAKO loads 10g in .270w but the rules are changed in Norway, Finland and Sweden so you are allowed to use a lighter bullet if its copper. 80% of new rifles in Sweden are .308w as they are used for most types of hunting, a rifle for bear and moose may be a 9,3*62, 300wm or 45-70 or a rifle for birds, fox and roe 223rem, 6mm/xx , 6,5*55.
Thank you for reading my post and responding with is more up to date and better helpful advice to the OP about any future use of his proposed .270 WCF in those places.
I see there is lot of support for fast but fast is not better.
While I like the .243 it is a little on the light side, it is so easy to shoot well that it is my go to for everything in the UK.
If you are looking to stalk abroad for something bigger or just something harder hitting 6.5x55, 7x57, 308 are excellent choices without being spiteful or noisy. .308 has the advantage of huge ammunition choice.
Anything 6.5 up to .30 doing 2100-2700fps is ideal.
In honesty, if you intend to ever hunt something outside of the .308 range (buffalo or elephant), buy a dedicated rifle and don’t worry about it.
While I like the .243 it is a little on the light side, it is so easy to shoot well that it is my go to for everything in the UK.
If you are looking to stalk abroad for something bigger or just something harder hitting 6.5x55, 7x57, 308 are excellent choices without being spiteful or noisy. .308 has the advantage of huge ammunition choice.
Anything 6.5 up to .30 doing 2100-2700fps is ideal.
In honesty, if you intend to ever hunt something outside of the .308 range (buffalo or elephant), buy a dedicated rifle and don’t worry about it.
Thanks Moeggesit. I may well end up with .308 as I've seen a Sako that has caught my eye, and I'm thinking that may be best all round, certainly cope with what I need in the UK and abroad generally. If I did go for anything bigger abroad I'd probably use a local rifle and save the money
7-08 was created to mimic 7x57 ballistics, for all intends and purposes it’s the same thing.
Incidentally 7x57 was developed for 170gr RN bullets and hence was used for everything including elephant with non expanding RN steel jacket. Penetration is equivalent to 458 Win Mag.
The identical 275 Rigby was loaded with 140gr bullet for the English market.
kenbro
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Read somewhere that Ivythorn is closing down, well, I think I did.Thanks Cranborne, I will add that name to my list and make contact.
Kb.
You may have and I think it was put to bed as untrue.
billgatese30
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I don't think that is the case. Macavoys is, but not Ivythorne.
Having used 22/250 for reds and Sika across the water with no problem, it's where you place the pill
My all round favourite so far has been 7x57 but ammo is fairly scarce. I reloaded.
25/06 Very capable but ammo choice limited.
270 and 308 I don't like.
6.5x55 very good
.243 Will kill everything in these islands.
It's all down to what you fancy, I'm now back to .243 and 22/250. until I fall.off my perch.
My all round favourite so far has been 7x57 but ammo is fairly scarce. I reloaded.
25/06 Very capable but ammo choice limited.
270 and 308 I don't like.
6.5x55 very good
.243 Will kill everything in these islands.
It's all down to what you fancy, I'm now back to .243 and 22/250. until I fall.off my perch.
kenbro
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If you are going for a used rifle, you are unlikely to find a worn out .308 if it has been a sporting rifle.Thanks Moeggesit. I may well end up with .308 as I've seen a Sako that has caught my eye, and I'm thinking that may be best all round, certainly cope with what I need in the UK and abroad generally. If I did go for anything bigger abroad I'd probably use a local rifle and save the money
Was it really?
Or was it just wild catters doing what wild catters do and necking down an established cartridge to create something they wanted?
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