Capreolus Club - info request

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I was a member a few years ago handy as I was working in London.There is some cracking ground with some good animals on it.If you can afford it and it suits them go for it.I stalked all the grounds at least once but never recognised any of it from the videos on you tube I had a sneaky suspicion that the best was kept for him.They got a fresh bit of ground near Guildford that opened on a certain date for members on a certain date but when the report email came in a good few had been taken prior to opening ??.I’m no longer a member as I now work elsewhere was it value for money no I’d say not you’d be possibly better paying for an odd stalk here or there with a local guide for less.But be careful with these also with there outing fee shot fee Caracas fee drive in my pickup fee and I’m famous fee as by the time there finished with you you’ll of bought them a new pickup the wife a new pair of tits and stroked there ego no end.
It sounds just like every syndicate I have ever been involved with, either shooting or fishing. Basically, the subs and work of the many, make it very nice for the few at the top :tiphat:
 
You would definitely save yourself a considerable amount of coin by paying for outings elsewhere. £1500 joining fee and an additional £186 a stalk, that's daylight robbery. If you did 1 stalk a year due to work/family that stalk would be costing you nearly £1700...
And how do I find them? I am always for saving money, but I need to know where to go and who to ask. So far I see them as the nearest and convenient club in my area that allows me shooting deer using an estate gun
 
And how do I find them? I am always for saving money, but I need to know where to go and who to ask. So far I see them as the nearest and convenient club in my area that allows me shooting deer using an estate gun
As Sh1kar says, put a wanted add in the classified section and no doubt someone will assist. Depending where you are, it might be worth asking @sikamalc and dealing with a bit of a journey. He won't have your pants down.
 
Their pigeon shooting is good value £395.00 + £3.00 per shot. (eg. £1,000.00 buys 200 shots & hopefully 200 shot pigeons!) more details here!


Wait, what???

Am I reading that correctly?

£395 + VAT for a day decoying pigeons? Plus £3 PER SHOT???

Bit early for an April Fools is it not?
 
wow that is taking the p at that price and heard they keep the best bits of land for themselves.

Shows how some shooters are desperate or a yuppie.
 
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If you want a guided stalk and use estate rifle, then you should get a cheaper membership which is annual membership subscription for £1,500 (inc. vat), each guided stalk with member discount is £186, one off discounted joining fee (don't remember), then around £30 for estate rifle and trophy costs (around £3 per kilo of meat and extra per species). The membership also includes PDS1 and hygiene training. Plus Membership assumes you have your own gun, can go out as often as you want, faster booking and you keep the carcass free of charge
I am all for free market capitalism, supply and demand but having actually seen the prices this does seem more akin to extortion. Taking advantage of people with limited connections, knowledge and experience. If you are paying a premium for guided stalks as it is, what is the £1500 a year for? Merely the privilege of access to the guide/land? £186 for an outing is way above average in my experience and I have never paid any extra to use an estate rifle, let alone £30 which is pretty significant. Assuming around £60 at least for the carcass and costs really are stacking up, amounting to a considerable sum annually. I genuinely think you can save a significant amount while still accessing high quality guided stalking with just a little bit of endeavour. Here being a great start but also groups on Facebook and networking via organisations such as BASC and the BDS. I have enjoyed some of their videos but personally would be very apprehensive to partake in one of their premium member only excursions given the target demographic of their business model. This trepidation could be entirely unfounded however. It seems evident to me that the CC pricing is contrived to attract a certain clientele that are seeking exclusivity, a club that is more focused on an elitist social experience than that of reverence for the sport. Not everyone’s cup of Earl Grey. Different strokes I guess. Good luck though either way.
 
And how do I find them? I am always for saving money, but I need to know where to go and who to ask. So far I see them as the nearest and convenient club in my area that allows me shooting deer using an estate gun
Just Google Wiltshire/Berkshire/Oxfordshire (other counties near you) Deer Stalking. Loads of results come up. There’s lots around your way, and particularly in the midlands advertised on here in the classified section.

This club seems like it works if you’re London based and cash rich/time poor. Fair enough, they’re supplying to a demand. But there’s really no shortage of individual paid stalking advertised around you, which I think would work out cheaper and you’d meet lots of different people in the process.
 
If you want a guided stalk and use estate rifle, then you should get a cheaper membership which is annual membership subscription for £1,500 (inc. vat), each guided stalk with member discount is £186, one off discounted joining fee (don't remember), then around £30 for estate rifle and trophy costs (around £3 per kilo of meat and extra per species). The membership also includes PDS1 and hygiene training. Plus Membership assumes you have your own gun, can go out as often as you want, faster booking and you keep the carcass free of charge

I would have thought, as an ex-policeman, he would have been aware of the fact that you cannot charge for the use of an estate rifle? The ammo used, yes, but not the use of the rifle...
 
Has no-one told them it's illegal to charge for the use of estate rifle you can charge for ammunition used you can add the cost of your rifle into your pricing as.many.of us do but then it needs to be passed on to all.your clients whether they use the rifle or not a couple of quid added on to outing fees will over time will cover use and abuse of your rifle trust me some clients will severely abuse it have had a client using the rifle as a walking stick one throwing it down the hillside in disgust after a miss and one rubbing the stock back and forth on the top of a drystone wall to get a better rest.
However that aside it is illegal to charge for the use of a rifle under the estate rifle clause.
 
I have never paid any extra to use an estate rifle, let alone £30 which is pretty significant.
The estate rifle clause allows a non-FAC holder to borrow a rifle.

This is why we don’t charge for use of the rifle, but do reserve the right to charge for the ammunition used (say, for example, they want some time zeroing and putting more rounds down the rifle before the outing).

That way a client is borrowing the rifle and reimbursing for the ammunition used, rather than hiring a rifle and ammunition.
 
Ah, we’ve all posted similar comments about the estate rifle clause!

Without seeing the exact T’s and C’s of the Capreolus Club it is impossible to say whether the £30 is related to use of the rifle, the ammunition, or both.

Let’s not jump to conclusions.
 
Just Google Wiltshire/Berkshire/Oxfordshire (other counties near you) Deer Stalking. Loads of results come up. There’s lots around your way, and particularly in the midlands advertised on here in the classified section.

This club seems like it works if you’re London based and cash rich/time poor. Fair enough, they’re supplying to a demand. But there’s really no shortage of individual paid stalking advertised around you, which I think would work out cheaper and you’d meet lots of different people in the process.
This is exactly how I did to try deer stalking. About 3 came out, nobody replied except these guys… Happy to pay less 😀. Provided gun and guide be also with me for the next 2 years. And wouldn’t mind going out for any other game as long as I can eat it after
 
I would have thought, as an ex-policeman, he would have been aware of the fact that you cannot charge for the use of an estate rifle? The ammo used, yes, but not the use of the rifle...
I might be confusing here. Please don’t fry me on legalities - don’t know, but would think they are doing everything legally and I confused something 😀
 
I think one thing to consider is that no one is being forced to pay these sums. Yes they are ludicrously expensive...so is a rolls Royce no one is forced to buy that either.
I've seen plenty of guides where prices go up into the thousands for what others only charge hundreds, it is what it is. Some syndicates charge an arm and leg and you might only get to take a couple of carcasses a year. If someone is willing to pay it then fair play to them for charging it. Providing everything is legal I don't think it's for any of us to really moan about
 
I think one thing to consider is that no one is being forced to pay these sums. Yes they are ludicrously expensive...so is a rolls Royce no one is forced to buy that either.
I've seen plenty of guides where prices go up into the thousands for what others only charge hundreds, it is what it is. Some syndicates charge an arm and leg and you might only get to take a couple of carcasses a year. If someone is willing to pay it then fair play to them for charging it. Providing everything is legal I don't think it's for any of us to really moan about
You’re right, of course, but some here have already got their pitchforks out and I’m not sure the mob can be stopped! ;)
 
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