Carcase Quality

[baguio]

I am sick and tired seeing phaesants thrown into plastic bags and dumped in back of pickups to get hot and sweaty etc - they need to be carried in open air to cool, and properly hung up etc. even worse is hearing and seeing carcasses just being dumped in pits.

I've been involved in shoots for ITRO 35 years and cannot remember even once seeing game thrown in plastic bags in the back of trucks. I've heard about game being thrown in pits (the bloke down the pub told me ) but have only ever seen one photo which was clearly breasted out birds that were about to be covered over (photo clearly taken by an anti, trying to make out that it was worse than what it actually was.
If this type of stuff actually goes on, don't you think that it's surprising that there are so few photos of it, considering that 99% of the population have a camera in their pocket these days?

 

[Cris]

I understood that to be a different point to the one @big ears was asking, though I may have that wrong, so my post was more to explain the formal differences in roles between AW's and Assessors.

To your point, I am not sure why anyone would think swilling out a carcass in a stream constitutes Best Practice, least of all an AW. Doubtless some here will talk happily of drinking from streams (and indeed I've done it myself), but hopefully not without at least a cursory glance first at what might be lying upstream!

There was a time, not that long ago, when even the washing out of the inside of a carcass with potable water in the larder was frowned upon, the preferred method being to use disposable paper towel to wipe out the inside of the rib cage instead. However prior to that I believe water was allowed. But then Best Practice is designed to be updated over time.

Of course there are always the practicalities to be looked at, it being different when stalking on the Hill to outings down South.

Found to many dead sheep and cattle upstream over the years to be drinking anything not boiled and or treated first! Thats in the South but equally could be the north or anywhere with livestock.

 

[big ears]

Found to many dead sheep and cattle upstream over the years to be drinking anything not boiled and or treated first! Thats in the South but equally could be the north or anywhere with livestock.

Best thing a father can say to their daughter is,”don’t put anything in your mouth that’s not been boiled”.

 

[Sol]

Carcass wasn't bought from the group however It was posted, oesophagus was still left partly In as well.

 

[Pete6.5]

Carcass wasn't bought from the group however It was posted, oesophagus was still left partly In as well.

Not the worst I've seen
I bet it didn't run

 

[willie_gunn]

And to think some stalker had the nerve to charge her £25 for that.....

 

[kieran222]

Badly shot is one thing, it can happen. But no excuse for a bad gralloch and then to sell on for £25. Disgraceful and another good reason for game dealers to buy farmed.

 

[Nikko]

Carcass wasn't bought from the group however It was posted, oesophagus was still left partly In as well.

And people wonder why wild British venison is not more mainstream!

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

Welcome ti

Carcass wasn't bought from the group however It was posted, oesophagus was still left partly In as well.

Welcome to reality i am afraid gents.

 

[308rws]

The British Quality Wild Venison (BQWV) Standard

 

[VSS]

The British Quality Wild Venison (BQWV) Standard

That link doesn't seem to work for me. Can you please check if it's correct? Thanks.

 

[308rws]

That link doesn't seem to work for me. Can you please check if it's correct? Thanks.

British Quality Wild Venison - Quality assurance for British Wild Venison

 

[finnbear270]

A couple of horrendous slides were shown of, how can I put it, unsuitably presented shot game by Willo at the Bransford event, seems some stalkers have strange ideas as to what a properly shot & gralloched deer should look like.

 

[75]

British Quality Wild Venison - Quality assurance for British Wild Venison

I very much support improved carcass quality and consumer confidence but I’m struggling to see what this initiative covers that isn’t already covered by DSC / Large game hygiene and registration as a food business. Am I missing something (other than the cost of being audited to meet the standard, which is mentioned on the website but not quantified):

The standard includes:

• Deer management and control
• Stalking proficiency
• Deer chiller/larder management
• Carcass inspection
• Transportation of deer carcasses
• Processing
• Hygiene standards
• Traceability

 

[long_range_rob]

The roadkill to hell is paved with good intentions

 

[sikamalc]

Oh how I hate FB

Article in the attached screenshots - this carcass prep is absolutely unacceptable

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Dear God above!!!

I gave up trying to move on the spare carcasses I had this winter on Giving up the game. To many time wasters on there and people wanting everything for free. Gave a great deal away this past winter to the local food bank.
Why anyone would accept a carcass in that condition into their chiller is beyond me. I wouldnt let it through the door. Having level 1 does not stop any of this as such, but as you now have to take Level 2 to achieve your meat handling certificate it may help. Anyone eating this carcass is likely to end up with a good dose of salmonella.

 

[308rws]

This appears to be the 'Red Tractor logo' for venison.

Scotland have had their own scheme since 2021: SAI Global New Scheme Assessment Provider for Scottish Quality Wild Venison | Intertek SAI Global and 70% of Scottish wild venison is produced under the SQWV scheme.

I'm guessing if this 'Red Trees logo' gets well established then customer demand for quality assurance will encourage Game Dealer's and Processors to join the scheme. Thus, AGHE and Trained Hunter's supplying wild venison to the market will be obliged to follow suit.

I'm also guessing that now there's an independently verified standard then anyone in the supply chain not complying may be sanctioned i.e. incompetent 'hunters'.