Compounding an error

Camelfarm

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Bit of an odd morning yesterday - the end result was a very long and unnecessary carry for me - so a lesson learned. I am probably being hugely long winded in the telling of this but it does display how a very simple error in communication can cause a potential issue

I share one of my permissions with another friend and fellow stalker - one with a lot more experience than me. As this is the first time either of us has been able to get on the ground for a few weeks we opted to split the farm down the middle and have a side each for some early morning roe stalking - it's big enough and the possibility of getting a few more deer off the land would be welcomed by the owner and his neighbours.

I spotted a group of 4 on a slope at the far end of my side of the farm but since the hedges have all been cut back hard this winter I needed to go into the other half of the farm to get a covered approach so texted my fellow stalker to see where he was and whether that would be OK - he said yes and off I went. About 20 minute later I was in position, lined up on a yearling doe, double checked surroundings and backstop as usual and took the shot off a set of homemade quad sticks . The boggyness of the ground meant that when I took the shot I completely lost my sight picture for a few seconds as the sticks sank in a bit and for a moment I was looking much further up the slope.

When I looked up from the scope, to my dismay and disbelief all four animals were haring off down the slope unscathed and didn't stop long enough for a second go - plus to have missed at that range - about 75m told me that something was up with my eyes, the zero or something else - didn't want to risk it again even if they had stopped and even though my instincts told me that the shot was good.

Throughout all of this my mate was looking up through his binos and had helpfully taken a few snaps through them with his smartphone. I texted him the bad news of a clean miss and he confirmed four animals, all completely unharmed had been past him and then scattered out. I was really crestfallen - it's been ages since we have been able to get out, the freezer is almost empty and it was the perfect morning to be out.

Friend and I walked back to the vehicles - his 110 defender and my crappy skoda estate and he headed off home - I stayed behind to walk back up to the far end of the farm with a piece of A4 paper but no other kit other than rifle and bullets to check zero where I wouldn't be interrupted and to have a final cast around the whole area for any signs of blood, hair or an injured roe.

I approached the site of the shot (stupidly it was the first time I had gone right up there) and there was a bit of foamy blood and some hair on the ground, so now I'm really worried that we have an injured deer that will almost certainly die up close to the owners house. Then I looked along the trail of blood and lying in the brambles stone dead is the doe I had shot at - drilled about 2" back from my point of aim and therefore a lung shot but most likely dead within a couple of seconds.

I have now pieced this together with the other chap and what we have identified from the photos and discussion is that there were 5 deer in the field but only 4 visible to me and because of the topography and vegetation only 4 visible to him from further away and a different angle. We both witness four running away unharmed - conclusion therefore is a clean miss.

I had to gralloch as best I could with my leatherman on the fence without my usual kit as that was in the car and then a very awkward and very long carry without my roe sack back to the car.

Conclusions:

1. No matter what always check the site of the shot before making any other conclusions (I know this so well and just forgot in the heat of it and the disappointment)
2. Always have the the right kit with you and don't leave things in the car
3. You can't always see every animal - obvious really
4. Trust your instincts - I was pretty damn sure the shot was good, everything felt right and I know the zero to be OK.
5. Take a bit more time to get the full picture of what is there - I had plenty of time to check everything more but rushed it in my excitement to break the 2021 duck
6. Don't ever, and I mean ever, let your friend take is 4x4 home until you are 100% certain that you don't have a beast to collect from the far end of the farm. (The real lesson is to ditch the crappy skoda and get my own 4x4)

Happy to have a doe in the fridge ready for butchering but very embarrassed that I allowed best practice to be overcome by disappointment and despondency. It also strikes me that my main error was to continue using the scope - I should have got away from it and used my eyes much faster, I think I would have spotted it all much better that way.
 
Don't worry, we've all done stupid things along the way. That's how we learn. (And use your binos!) The only way to avoid any mistakes whilst stalking, is, give it up!
 
Edited to add - this is in reply to deerstalker.308 as I forgot to quote it:

Absolutely and I know this - just the sequence of events plus having another person confirming my assumption caused me to veer away from what we all know to be best practice - that's really why I posted all that long winded guff!
 
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I’ve had it happen a few times where the deer hardly reacts and walks off, no visible signs of a strike but I just know that I couldn’t have missed but perseverance of checking the cover it went into has always found the carcass. Now I have a GWP it makes it a lot easier
 
Edited to add - this is in reply to deerstalker.308 as I forgot to quote it:

Absolutely and I know this - just the sequence of events plus having another person confirming my assumption caused me to veer away from what we all know to be best practice - that's really why I posted all that long winded guff!
Sorry after typing it that sounds harsh and judgmental and that wasn’t my intention, your post is a good honest and frank reminder of why every shot needs to be treated as a hit, glad you found the deer and made good of the experience!
 
Sorry after typing it that sounds harsh and judgmental and that wasn’t my intention, your post is a good honest and frank reminder of why every shot needs to be treated as a hit, glad you found the deer and made good of the experience!
Didn't take it that way at all - you are completely correct and I have been doing this stalking lark on and off for a long time - most times everything is fine and how we react when it doesn't go right is really the test of us as sportsmenpeople - a test I failed yesterday morning - won't happen again
 
Thanks one and all for giving be back a little self esteem! It's so easy to forget one's hard earned knowledge and experience when things take an unexpected turn.

If I hadn't had the other witness there I think I would have done everything in the correct order but my assumption coupled with his assumption led to the wrong conclusion.

Assume: Ass=u+me etc
 
Out of interest, do you use a thermal image unit to locate deer?

It may have been one of those instances whereby a) you become aware of another, possibly partially obscured nearby heat source, and b) may just possibly have revealed from a distance that there was still a heat source (the fallen animal) where they'd last been. No substitute for the careful study of the intended impact site, but useful information to have to form a fuller picture of the scene.
 
Something very similar happened to me a few years ago now, middle of winter so out stalking Does and the snow was thick on the ground.
I spotted a group of Roe through the binos so started to stalk into them, the group were on the ground a bit higher up than me so I had a fence and blackthorn hedge to get me a bit closer to them.
Crawling in the snow with the dog tucked close to my @rse bipod down and lying still for a bit, looking through the binos I picked out the smallest doe, ranged at 160 yds.
Field rising above them so good backstop, wood 20 yds to the left of the group, took the shot, no shot reaction at all! All of them over a small fence into the wood. I lay where I was for about ten minutes before going to the shot site to have a look, nowt, no sign of blood, hair, anything.
Me and the hound into the wood to have a look for any signs, again nowt, steep embankment and a stream at the bottom of it.
Looked hard for a while round and round and the hound couldn't make anything of it.
I thought a complete miss but I was not happy with that, back to my motor drive to another part of the ground into a sand quarry, now to check the rifle and me.
Water bottle set up in the sand and I walk back 160 yds bipod down take the shot, bang on, not me or the rifle then.
Back to the vehicle drive back to where I was stalking, park up and start again, I went into the wood a different way and started searching towards where the group of Roe went in, me and the hound searching into the wind this time, in a gully back and forward over the stream then the hound found the wee doe couched up under a fallen tree, stone dead.
On inspection, the shot had taken the top of the heart out but this wee doe still managed a steep hill, stream and it was 90 yds into the trees from the edge of the wood where they went in.
I was glad that I never put it down to a clean miss and checked the shot on the water bottle to confirm the shot was good.
As it has been said, always treat it as a hit first, check and check again, it worked for me.
 
Out of interest, do you use a thermal image unit to locate deer?

It may have been one of those instances whereby a) you become aware of another, possibly partially obscured nearby heat source, and b) may just possibly have revealed from a distance that there was still a heat source (the fallen animal) where they'd last been. No substitute for the careful study of the intended impact site, but useful information to have to form a fuller picture of the scene.
I don't have rangefinders or thermal imagery gear - I don't do enough to justify the expenditure (as I have revealed on another thread I had to smuggle the Sauer into the house when I traded up from a very used Savage!) Mrs CF doesn't appreciate the finer points of all the gear I need for all my hobbies. I have enough stuff already but thinking that thermal might be a useful extra thing to have. BUT - this unfortunate experience is hopefully a one-off. Lesson learned and all points firmly taken on board so shouldn't happen again.

Like every past time I enjoy - making music, fly fishing, wood working, veg growing - the whole point is to never stop learning, which is probably the reason why most of us enjoy what we do
 
Buddy, I’ve shot enough deer now that I “think” I should be cooler about the whole thing, but I’m not. I’m a pretty laid back guy by nature but the deer do something to me. I would have reacted the same as you. My overwhelming thoughts are always to make a clean kill and be calm. I manage the first but I get buck (or doe) fever every time.

Top marks for fessin up, buy don’t feel bad. You got the mark and the beast was felled, the bit after had no consequence for the deer.
 
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