Dealing with a suburban fox

Potentially a breach of your FAC conditions as you'd be shooting over land you don't have permission to shoot on. I know there is nothing specific in the firearms act as there is for airguns and it's a grey area (shooting across a bend in the river from your permission across someone else's back on to yours etc) but I suspect it would give most forces reason to question your suitability to own a FAC if you were using someone else's garden as your safe backstop for :fox:.
 
Potentially a breach of your FAC conditions as you'd be shooting over land you don't have permission to shoot on. I know there is nothing specific in the firearms act as there is for airguns and it's a grey area (shooting across a bend in the river from your permission across someone else's back on to yours etc) but I suspect it would give most forces reason to question your suitability to own a FAC if you were using someone else's garden as your safe backstop for :fox:.
I think you will find that it is only "projectiles " fired from an air rifle / pistol are covered by current legislation regarding leaving your land. Powder burners (rifles/shotguns) are not included in the legislation. (Not sure if FAC air falls under air or powder burner)
 
As far as I'm aware there are no restrictions that exclude private property from being deemed suitable.
Would love to see the guidance that disputes my belief, not speculative assumptions.
 
Potentially a breach of your FAC conditions as you'd be shooting over land you don't have permission to shoot on. I know there is nothing specific in the firearms act as there is for airguns and it's a grey area (shooting across a bend in the river from your permission across someone else's back on to yours etc) but I suspect it would give most forces reason to question your suitability to own a FAC if you were using someone else's garden as your safe backstop for :fox:.
The scenario such as describe (eg, shooting across a bend in a river) is a pretty normal stalking situation, is it not?
Similarly, shooting across a road, where you have permission on both sides.

I don't think you'd be in breach of anything, provided you weren't using an airgun.

Using someone else's land as a backstop is a definite no-no, obviously.
 
As someone who has lived most of his life in a city, with plenty of foxes around, and plenty of foxes visiting the garden, it is beyond me why anyone would want to shoot one unless it was for humane reasons (ie mange - not that I have ever seen an urban fox with mange), or they just want to shoot a fox because it is a fox. Neighbours cats were more troublesome to be honest.
 
As someone who has lived most of his life in a city, with plenty of foxes around, and plenty of foxes visiting the garden, it is beyond me why anyone would want to shoot one unless it was for humane reasons (ie mange - not that I have ever seen an urban fox with mange), or they just want to shoot a fox because it is a fox. Neighbours cats were more troublesome to be honest.
You not smelt fox shîtê? 😂🤢
 
As someone who has lived most of his life in a city, with plenty of foxes around, and plenty of foxes visiting the garden, it is beyond me why anyone would want to shoot one unless it was for humane reasons (ie mange - not that I have ever seen an urban fox with mange), or they just want to shoot a fox because it is a fox. Neighbours cats were more troublesome to be honest.
Only this morning I had a call from a business that had a fox get in last night **** and **** everywhere in there office. Not the 1st call I’ve had like that. That’s why you don’t want them. Seen plenty of foxes with menge too.

As for the original post. Legal to shoot your fox as long as you’re legal. Whether it’s safe and suitable to do so is another question only you can answer that with your skill and knowledge and that you have the skill to decide the right course of action.
 
.22 LR or .22 FAC air rifle in the head ( borrow one or get some one with one in to do it, and no one will ever know
 
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.22 LR or .22 FAC air rifle in the head ( borrow one or get some one with one in to do it, and no one will ever know
Except that borrowing a sec 1 firearm is a pretty big no-no.
Still, in for a penny, in for a pound, I suppose!
If you're going to mess up you might as well mess up properly. And if you don't mess up then all well and good and as you say, no one will ever know!
 
I catch and dispatch urban foxes as part of my pest control, baited fox cage then dispatch with relevant caliber (.22) make sure to phone 101 to notify your dispatching and get a CAD No obvs you need an open ticket .
 
I would guess most pest controllers in Central London would call it in?
Theres a world of difference sniping a fox in a back garden from an upstairs window with a .22 to shooting through a garage at ground level through a pedestrian doorway with limited view of the rest of the garden with an HMR.
Without seeing the OP’s garden none of us can say for sure how safe it could be.
Even if it was safe, an HMR in the confines of a garage is like a bomb going off so there’s the potential of a huge can of worms opening up, disturbing the peace, anti socal behaviour, neighbours feeling threatened etc that could result in a load of hassle and the chance of your guns being seized and questions asked later.
Then throw in the chance of a negligent discharge, or clipping the fox and it making off and bleeding out on next doors patio etc is it really worth that?
Too many if’s and but’s especially with an HMR in a domestic garden in my view.
Yup, pretty much wrong in that first instance.


Just shoot the feking thing. No one cares and it’s not a big deal.
I’ve shot foxes with a .243 in a fairly urban area and have shot all sorts in gardens in towns using a .22

Just stop fretting and get it done
 
We have had one pestie mention calling in.

It is however, as far as I know, not a legal requirement.
Not at all and if I thought the neighbours wouldn't notice or report a shot to the police then I wouldn't draw attention to what I was doing by calling in. If however I thought there was a good chance the police would get a call from a "concerned member of public" then I'd preempt that bully calling in.

As a professional pest controller it may make more sense to call in as you're doing it more often and would potentially be better for business and customer reviews etc if you could take reasonable steps to avoid police officers knocking on your customers doors during or after your visit.
 
One shot, late night or early morning.

What was that? (Car backfire, kids effing about, bin lid slamming, dropped object etc etc)
helping a fox totter off this mortal coil in your garden is not going to be up there.

Where did that noise come from?
One shot, noise deflected by fencing, houses, sheds etc etc no one is going to pin it down. Hence one shot kill is a bit important.

Just shoot it. Keep the firearm indoors afterwards. Allow a bit of time to let the Venetian blind twitchers calm down and don’t flash torches about.

Have been despatching a number of beasties on this basis. Don’t overthink it.
 
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