I don’t think he’s ever heard a bomb going off either…….
Dealing with a suburban fox
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Pellet Pinger
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See post #3 and #9 by the OP, they clearly state noise is a concern.
nun_hunter
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A friend used to do a lot of urban fox control in Sussex and Surrey and he would use a 223. He would get the clients to water a patch of lawn each day and bait for a week and then take the **** from an upstairs window. Never had a complaint, sometimes called the police in advance to notify them and never had an issue.
A single shot is not going to draw attention and even if it does 99% of the population have no idea what a high velocity shot through a moderator sounds like.
If I had an open ticket and a HMRC I'd have zero concerns about shooting a fox in an urban garden. As prep I'd range the distance and check zero at that distance in advance so a brain shot was going to be spot on without hold over etc.
Even if the police did attend you've not breached any FAC conditions and you can prove all reasonable steps for safety have been covered. Some people forget that the police attend an incident to stop ongoing harm and then gather evidence to ascertain the facts. In this situation you can provide them with reassurances of both and most likely not have an issue at all. Even less likely if you called in advance outlining your intention.
A single shot is not going to draw attention and even if it does 99% of the population have no idea what a high velocity shot through a moderator sounds like.
If I had an open ticket and a HMRC I'd have zero concerns about shooting a fox in an urban garden. As prep I'd range the distance and check zero at that distance in advance so a brain shot was going to be spot on without hold over etc.
Even if the police did attend you've not breached any FAC conditions and you can prove all reasonable steps for safety have been covered. Some people forget that the police attend an incident to stop ongoing harm and then gather evidence to ascertain the facts. In this situation you can provide them with reassurances of both and most likely not have an issue at all. Even less likely if you called in advance outlining your intention.
BenBhoy
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I'd complain like hell if someone took a shït from my upstairs window!!
Pellet Pinger
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No and i don’t claim to have done but i have been called upon several times to deal with foxes in situations in housing estates and under school mobile classrooms, even with .25 FAC air, 22lr, HMR and C/F’s at my disposal i’ve done a risk assessment and concluded it’s not worth the potential hassle should something go wrong so walked away.
Just because something is safe and legal doesn’t mean it’s a good idea 100% of the time.
I certainly wouldn’t risk upsetting a complete strangers neighbours and a potential social media **** storm and a police visit for the sake of one fox in a garden, i’ve got plenty to shoot in fields.
Each to their own.
hairlesshunter
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Surely it depends if they're on the windowsill leaning in, or inside leaning out?
I have shot a few foxs in traps. I use a .22lr with sub sonic. In most cases the trapped fox are quite placid.
Minimal noise. Certainly queiter than a single barrel 12 bore.
Just have a strong black rubble bag to hand. Tip or place fox into the bag expel air and twist bag and zip tie twisted neck.
Takes minimal time.
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Minimal noise. Certainly queiter than a single barrel 12 bore.
Just have a strong black rubble bag to hand. Tip or place fox into the bag expel air and twist bag and zip tie twisted neck.
Takes minimal time.
D
shakey jake
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Guess ive been lucky then. Not my experience at all, if its safe and legal i cant see the issue
Bo Diddley
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Correct. Older terrace properties are ideal, with long, straight, narrow gardens. Only the immediate neighbours can see into your garden. Modern housing estates seem to have about a dozen other houses set at funny angles, all with a view of your property. Not ideal.
With luck the area will be overrun with weed smoking chavs, to stoned to notice anything themselves, and the normal everyday folks will be to sensible to worry about sticking their heads out of a window if they hear a gunshot... they will probably put it down to a "Gangsta" protecting his turf.
Amazing how even a thread about shooting an urban fox has spiralled into bickering...
Better than on the carpet
Pellet Pinger
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Yep, we all have a different take on things as this thread demonstrates with the varied opinions.
Would have been helpful if the OP had posted a google earth image of his property lol.
I cant work out if im gobsmacked at what im reading, or if im learning new things i never knew 
such as shooting rifles other that Air rifles in ones garden, and 2, using a 22lr, west yorkshire police say you cant even shoot fox with a 17 hmr, centre fire only,
such as shooting rifles other that Air rifles in ones garden, and 2, using a 22lr, west yorkshire police say you cant even shoot fox with a 17 hmr, centre fire only,
Heym SR20
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We have plenty of foxes around us in the middle of the city. None of us bother with lawns, our gardens are all big pots of plants, bits of gravel etc. None of the neighbours complain about the foxes. Our hound does get a wee bit irritated and some nights will give a good chase up the street. Ditto other dogs.
I know of others across town who do shoot foxes in their gardens of tenement flats. As fast as they shoot one another two or three move in. Let a dominant fox remain and it will keep all the others at bay.
If you do want a fox removed in a densely populated area, I would contact the council and get one of their pest controllers in. They will be properly approved, insured, licensed etc and if they do mess up or get complaints then its their problem, license etc.
Much the best way of dealing with urban wildlife, is to learn to live with it / enjoy it.
And if you do want to get rid of them I believe the poo or scent of a apex predator such as a wolf, tiger or lion that treats a fox like a kit kat does rather deter them, but first find a tiger. My step grandma swore by this approach, but one of her daughters was married to a zoo keeper.
I know of others across town who do shoot foxes in their gardens of tenement flats. As fast as they shoot one another two or three move in. Let a dominant fox remain and it will keep all the others at bay.
If you do want a fox removed in a densely populated area, I would contact the council and get one of their pest controllers in. They will be properly approved, insured, licensed etc and if they do mess up or get complaints then its their problem, license etc.
Much the best way of dealing with urban wildlife, is to learn to live with it / enjoy it.
And if you do want to get rid of them I believe the poo or scent of a apex predator such as a wolf, tiger or lion that treats a fox like a kit kat does rather deter them, but first find a tiger. My step grandma swore by this approach, but one of her daughters was married to a zoo keeper.
I cant work out if im gobsmacked at what im reading, or if im learning new things i never knew
such as shooting rifles other that Air rifles in ones garden, and 2, using a 22lr, west yorkshire police say you cant even shoot fox with a 17 hmr, centre fire only,
If you have an open ticket and "any other lawful quarry" then there is no restriction from a legal perspective on a) shooting in your garden with any calibre or b) shooting foxes with a 22lr (as long as projectile doesn't leave your premises and you comply with the Highways Act etc).
The issue is the buggeration factor of neighbour reporting gunshots in the neighbourhood and the Police turning up heavy handed. Discretion is everything with these sensitive situations.
I've shot dozens of foxes out of my bedroom window with various C/F calibres over the last few years. And I've lost count of the squirrels with the 22rf. And come to think of it, I shot a pig in someone's garden in a council estate last year. Middle of the day too.
Doesn't even matter if the bullet leaves your boundary with RF/CF, that only applies to air powered. (Not that you want a RF/CF bullet leaving your boundary)If you have an open ticket and "any other lawful quarry" then there is no restriction from a legal perspective on a) shooting in your garden with any calibre or b) shooting foxes with a 22lr (as long as projectile doesn't leave your premises and you comply with the Highways Act etc).
The issue is the buggeration factor of neighbour reporting gunshots in the neighbourhood and the Police turning up heavy handed. Discretion is everything with these sensitive situations.
I've shot dozens of foxes out of my bedroom window with various C/F calibres over the last few years. And I've lost count of the squirrels with the 22rf. And come to think of it, I shot a pig in someone's garden in a council estate last year. Middle of the day too.
That is my understanding also.
In fact, there are situations where you would want the bullet to cross your boundary.
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