Dealing with a suburban fox
- Thread starter JMikeyH
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Refer them to HO guidelines on calibre, also no minimum calibre in law for fox
Smellydog
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That's why you keep everything simple and minimalist.
Bo Diddley
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It sounds like they need educating; probably the reason is that they are disciples of CP.
Old shooters like me must read all this and shake their heads in disbelief at what things have come to!
Amen to that.
Far too much drama from the first post as grown men ask which socks to buy let alone shoot a fox
Mr Tree
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I never thought pulling a trigger could be so complicated, 8 pages in, did he actually get it, is it still alive, did it die of old age? Its a bit like watching Eastenders.
So you’re good to go then…..
nun_hunter
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What you need to remember about government and public sector jobs is that in order to be completely fair and transparent in the recruitment/promotion process all interviews are based on a competency framework that has nothing to do with the job just the core competencies (supposedly) required to do the job. This was an attempt to prevent the "good ol' boys" from getting jobs and promotions from their mates, but just means that although some great people do get jobs or promoted an absolute load of unsuitable people also get through by gaming the system.
This means that someone with 40 years shooting and firearms experience can (and probably will) score lower than someone from another organisation (or department within the police) who has experience of this awful system and knows how to play it to achieve the best score and get the job.
Training is then provided but by people already there so whatever they were taught or believe is passed. When questioned about a process or procedure that makes no sense the response is the old "that's how we do it around here. Always have done it that way". Hence why one force will say no to shooting a fox with a 22lr but another won't say anything about it.
When I first had my FAC I had a 243 conditioned for fox and AOLQ and was told I absolutely couldn't shoot a deer with it unless I did DSC1 or had a mentor. I was young and naïve so didn't challenge it. I've spoken to that particular FEO a few years after and he said that was incorrect from a legal standpoint but it's what the whole department was trained and told at that time as AOLQ was something still fairly new to be putting on FAC conditions.
It was a humane dispatch job I was called out on. Pig had been down a few days and vet said it needed shooting. It was supposed to be some sort of dwarf pet pig thing so was going to be quick, discreet one and back in time for coffee but when we turned up if was bloody massive and stuck inside some shonky pig sty in the back of a council estate garden. It couldn't get up and couldn't move but had a right arse on. No way any of us were going in this tiny space with it and angle was terrible to get to it's head. All we could do was pull the shed down around it so I could get a shotgun barrel in through the wall and do the deed. All in full view of the neighbours.
It then took us about 2 hours to get it dragged out with the quad and somehow onto a trailer and away.
I never seem to get the routine ones
That is exactly what was posted in the first instance, at #2.
Big red deer and pigs...you get all the easy ones lolIt was a humane dispatch job I was called out on. Pig had been down a few days and vet said it needed shooting. It was supposed to be some sort of dwarf pet pig thing so was going to be quick, discreet one and back in time for coffee but when we turned up if was bloody massive and stuck inside some shonky pig sty in the back of a council estate garden. It couldn't get up and couldn't move but had a right arse on. No way any of us were going in this tiny space with it and angle was terrible to get to it's head. All we could do was pull the shed down around it so I could get a shotgun barrel in through the wall and do the deed. All in full view of the neighbours.
It then took us about 2 hours to get it dragged out with the quad and somehow onto a trailer and away.
I never seem to get the routine ones
We had 1 of our pigs who would not go in the trailer a couple of years ago...a week later and she just would not go. 4 went in and off to the abattoir...she got shot point blank with the 12 bore and 42 grams of AAA...dragging a 90 kilo pig down the drive on a tarp to hang up and gut out was fun...fortunately none of our neighbours can see what we get up to
Thank heavens for the easy of country living...I can shoot a fox with the 6.5 Creed with the moderator off and none will worry (or the .17 HMR (controversial))
It's been dead for a few days already
I’d cage trap then dispatch with .22lr
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