Dialled in shooting
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Brave Echo Niner
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I have no interest in getting involved in your little argument surrounding what a Mil is if that is what you are meaning by this.
Long Range Shooting - MOA and MILS explained
By all means have a read of that. But if you're looking for an answer out of me a Radian is a measure of angle and a milliradian is a subdivision of this.
Now people should know what their scope adjusts in, if they're unsure its generally written on the turrets as shown (this seems to have attached beneath for some reason, I have no affiliation to the company this image was borrowed from BTW)
As a general rule 1/10 Mil is regarded to be 1cm at 100m, but with a Mil/Mil scope you never need to go into looking at how many centimeters it is at a given range, you can zero by measuring on your reticule and you can adjust in Mils, I have never thought at X meters I need to shoot Y CM high, I simply think at X M I need to be Z Mils high based off what my calculator says.
You work off either DOPE (data on previous engagement) which may be plotted in a chart or a calculator of some kind. I will include a screenshot of Applied ballistics that I use below:
Now this gives me a drop, windage etc, I can input accurate condition information such as pressure, temperature etc on the page before.
Please note throughout this I have not needed to convert into CM dropped or equivalent.
I then turn my elevation turret to U0.4 MIL and my windage to L0.5 MIL (in this example).
I would expect as I have done the ground work in measuring and inputting muzzle velocity, sight height and all the other variables that this will be pretty accurate. As is always the rule good data in = good data out, bad data in = bad data out.
I have validated this example curve out to 500M which was the furthest available range at the time and it is bang on without correcting the curve.
I hope this clarifies a few details,
Ben
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Steff
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Sorry, my phone stays in my pocket when I‘m out stalking. I have my shooting data in my head, not in my phone.
Now now, children, let’s play nicely.
Brave Echo Niner
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You must have a supercomputer of a brain then if you can calculate the exact drop and windage on the fly at any given range, windage and atmospherics, all credit to you!
Unfortunately, us mere mortals don't possess this power and while I trust my RF binos corrections out to about 250/300 (which has been verified), beyond that I prefer to check on a proper ballistic software I can trust!
What I am offering is a way the OP can get started and get some data to play with on the range. A way that is relatively easy and just takes about 30 mins prep in setting the software up and a little bit of measuring.
Ben
Steff
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I can indeed only do this out to 300m. And the wind is guess work, with or without an app
.If you are shooting further out, I do see a certain sense in what you are doing.
Hence post no1.
Big_Sparky
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I bet you’re pleased you didn’t ask a complicated question……Hence post no1.
Next time I will just ask if I should buy a land rover to go shooting with my Blaser!!!I bet you’re pleased you didn’t ask a complicated question……
Ah well, at least you don't have to worry about biting and hair pulling, what with it being an online forum, and some members are probably experiencing male pattern baldness and/or using dentures...
None of that for me, TDS ret. & a hark back to chasing cotton reels with an air rifle.
He started it!!!
Probably considered by Admin / others to be detrimental to the site?
Deer? Not going to say.
Besides, I've seen more deer wounded at 75yds, by hunters thinking they could take a shot at a running deer because it was close, than I have deer wounded because the range was long.
Generally speaking, IME, most hunters miss completely at long range (especially if they are not prepared for a long shot). Close range movers however, they tend to make contact, but far too many times, not fatally. Range can be calculated (and practiced at a range), movers require practice (with a moving target, which are expensive and rare to most ranges) and understanding your own personal lock time before you can be comfortable with a lead at a given range (nevermind the bouncing run a deer makes, creating a target moving in all four directions).
JMTCW...
alberta boy
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and artillery support ......... just in case you get a runner . Beehives work really well , non toxic of course .
AB
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