Double Rifles??

If and when you acquire your first combination gun, drilling, or double rifle, you will find lots of people on the forums who are surprised to discover that, with the right loads, their break action rifles are more accurate than any bolt action they own.

If the bullets are moving 200 fps slower, so what? These are made for the woods, swamps, thickets, tall grass, moving on uneven and slippery ground, quickly aiming and firing offhand. They are more capable than most hunters are inside 200 yards, and most shots will be at 100 or 50 or 25 yards. A 7x57 starting a 140-gr bullet out at 2,600 fps, or an 8mm pushing a 200-gr bullet at 2,300, will kill big game, not just deer. A 9.3x74R or .375 with a mild load is flat shooting and potent.

They are safe, just like a SxS shotgun, and you can move one about to balance oneself when fording a stream, as an aide, rather than an impediment. Try that with a ten pound rifle with bipod and Hubble scope on it.

If you only hunt ducks from a blind with a Benelli autoloader, you will not understand why a grouse hunter, climbing steep hills with his Springer Spaniel, prefers a light 20-gauge SxS. But the great thing about hunting and fishing is not waiting until you need a different tool, but that owning one opens up new types of hunting and fishing, makes you dream of doing something different, and then doing some of it.
 
But the great thing about hunting and fishing is not waiting until you need a different tool, but that owning one opens up new types of hunting and fishing, makes you dream of doing something different, and then doing some of it.

"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible."

Now I'll have to buy a double 9.3x74R for my imaginary moose hunting trip to the Yukon...
 
Now I'll have to buy a double 9.3x74R for my imaginary moose hunting trip to the Yukon.. ~ Pine Marten

Just buying a Marlin .45-70 will get you started.

I guarantee that if someone had only fished for ten inch brook trout with a 3-wt fly rod, and were given a 10-wt outfit, they would soon be
casting in the yard, tying salmon flies, or tropical baitfish streamers, dreaming of a trip to the Tortugas for bonefish and tarpon, and soon saving up for whatever excursion first presents itself. That is as it should be. Fine guns and fishing rods are talismans.
 
I have spent a good few years learning how to use a bolt action rifle on the UK deer species. They seem to work pretty well, accurate, work well over all UK stalking distances. Forgive my ignorance, but why would you want to use a double rifle on UK deer species? Do you need the second barrel for follow up shots? Are the bolt actions not accurate enough for you?

I can get my head around it for driven boar, but I can't quite understand why a double is a good tool for deer in the UK.

Please enlighten me.

You obviously haven't had the pleasure of using a double rifle then Nigel.

Its the difference between art and science. :-D

I have several very accurate and totally practical bolt action rifles but the pleasure of carrying and using my doubles is something quite different.
 
You obviously haven't had the pleasure of using a double rifle then Nigel.

Its the difference between art and science. :-D

I have several very accurate and totally practical bolt action rifles but the pleasure of carrying and using my doubles is something quite different.

I think I might be starting to understand.....had a good look at the Holts catalogue at the weekend, this thread could be expensive!
 
Here's some suitable quarry for a double rifle that might inspire? Now you know why NigelM.

And Greener Jim...I'm old but not that old!

My son's mother, and friends, having fun with a big tabby cat.

Tiger, tiger burning bright...and all that!

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Lord! I'm twice that. Plus four on top come November. I thought you were a lot more than twenty-seven. Heck...my son is twenty-three!
 
using a fine double, single or combination gun is a bit like using a really fine hand crafted split can fly rod, a cedar / canvas canoe or my grandfathers brass backed tenon saw. Yes you can use a modern factory made alternative and then may cast further, take rocks better or be disposable. But use the proper thing once - it can then become very expensive.

If you don't understand this fascination, well worth a visit are the viewing days at Holts Auction. Pick up a few doubles and you might start to understand.

One caveat. Some of the new German manufactured rifles with two barrels are not to my mind doubles - they have no soul and feel really cumbersome compared to a fine English made double rifle.
 
This is one very nice double I have seen. This model was in 45/70. It really handled beautifully offhand and I was surprised how light it was. With a nice low power 1-6 scope I'm pretty sure anything out to 200m would be toast. It was certainly a step from the Baikal and only 3 times the price at the time.

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Just got a price on one at the local. My gosh they are not cheap. I'll see if I can get a picture later.
 
A Boss is not something a "bit" out of the ordinary. I only know of one person who hunts with a Boss in Australia.

What are you mate's double rifles that have problems with regulation and at what range?
Not too sure mate, we've hunted Buff and he has to get pretty close. The nearest range that we can use the calibre is Belmont in Brisbane. I'll try to find out and let you know. He's talking 50 yards as his ideal range at the moment, and that's a lot less than the 200 you mentioned.
 
Not as quick to reload for a DGR, but an O/U double rifle can be had for not such scary prices, from Beretta, Rizzini, Sabatti, even Krieghoff, especially second hand, like Browning and Winchester ( Miroku 101). That Fausti SxS would be all I need, and the prices are surprisingly low.
 
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