I have a Zeiss 6-24x56FL Ret 43 (mil dot) with ASV+ elevation only. I've stalked in the morning, shot a roe buck, hung it in a fly net and headed to Bisley to shoot 200-600 yards in informal competition and more than held my own. Only thing I'd change is to get illuminated but couldn't find at the time. With that I would truly have one does all.