You’re giving your reasons as to why you voted Brexit and I am not arguing about the points that led to your decision on Brexit. I am just telling you what all the post Brexit research said were the 2 key points people quoted for voting Brexit
Effective, who knows
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Whalberg86
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Remindeds me of a certain MEP, employing his Mrs & bit on the side, All while leading the leave campaign....
Stevie/P
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Is that the same Kinock that wanted to abolish the house of lords and who is now a member of the House of Lords
More faces than Coalville town clock.
I agree with you what the Post Brexit research said, my point to that is who conducted “the post brexit research” who controls the narrative, who controls the the pain in the arse way that imports and exports are made, the same people that control the post brexit research maybe ? Directly or indirectly.
Brexit could have been great but if you set out to make it look like the worse option and you have the power and the will.
He most certainly did, i guess we wont be voting him back. Unfortunately it turns out to be more of the same deception.
As a friend said, quoting someone else, it doesn't matter who you vote for the Government always gets in!
Answer to who conducted the research, lots of independent companies, universities and research houses on both sides of the argument most completed after the event as pure research, however lots of good facts rarely defeat a good conspiracy theory
Did anyone actually think a politician would keep their word?Did the will of the people think they were going to get gang fu***d? on week 8.
Puds
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The problem is, the majority of brexiteers haven’t been anywhere near a University so don’t understand how research is conducted. It’s not something they comprehend so resort to conspiracy instead.
The stats illustrated below are rather telling.
That’s a really cheap shot.
Where the hell do they get this rubbish from. Do not think the people with an axe to grind would respond in such a way.
It’s like asking the qualifications from university students that voted.
My father voted in the original election to get into the European community, it was politicians that corrupted the great ideal that was a trading alliance that didnt need the vast sums of money to prop up the paperwork and the fraudulent book keeping.
Most of the farmers wanted out in the first instance, then the NFU pointed out what it would cost them. Much the same for the Business man.
I completely understand they felt it would cost them personally, not for altruistic reasons, just me, me, me just like the politicians.
Statista. a German owned organisation published by the University of Bologna (Italy)
I now why i voted out, also my education. I was one of the 2 percent. It’s now about 70 percent kind of under values further education.
Why do you think it would be so great to be in the EU
I now why i voted out, also my education. I was one of the 2 percent. It’s now about 70 percent kind of under values further education.
Why do you think it would be so great to be in the EU
Like ammo some cheap stuff is very accurate
The majority of all people haven't been to university. And your argument is ineffective with respect to those Brexiteers who have been to university, do understand how research is conducted and, as importantly, commissioned.
Those are estimates, aren't they? Not in any way something that could be described as factual. The fact is that this country has a secret ballot system and NOBODY knows the relative educational attainment of Remainers or Brexiteers. Claiming otherwise is straightforward dishonesty.
nun_hunter
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The way I see it was that there were two options, stay or leave. Choosing to stay could be argued as basing that decision on facts as we were in the EU, knew what it was like knew what the benefits and drawbacks were. The option to leave was a pure guess as no one voting and no one campaigning for Brexit knew what would happen and certainly had no idea how it would actually be implemented. This lead to retainers "knowing" what they were voting for and leavers voting for what they personally hoped would happen.
It's like asking should we keep the sky blue or change it? When the vote comes back as change it and it's decided to make it black as night 24/7 those who voted for it can't say "well i wanted it green, that's what I thought was going to happen" when that wasn't the question. The referendum never asked what the voters wanted from Brexit if it happened, just did they want it to happen so whatever the outcome no one can complain thay it hasn't been delivered as there was never any specified outcome other than leaving the EU.
Anyone who voted to leave not knowing or expecting this shouldn't have voted unless 100% happy to go along with whatever the outcome was from a bunch of politicians who should never be trusted.
It's like asking should we keep the sky blue or change it? When the vote comes back as change it and it's decided to make it black as night 24/7 those who voted for it can't say "well i wanted it green, that's what I thought was going to happen" when that wasn't the question. The referendum never asked what the voters wanted from Brexit if it happened, just did they want it to happen so whatever the outcome no one can complain thay it hasn't been delivered as there was never any specified outcome other than leaving the EU.
Anyone who voted to leave not knowing or expecting this shouldn't have voted unless 100% happy to go along with whatever the outcome was from a bunch of politicians who should never be trusted.
I think you can turn your argument on its head, at the inception of the common market do you think we would have voted for the United States of Europe, to be lead by whichever country has the headquarters, being thwarted by France from doing anything seen as beneficial to ourselves, following every agricultural rule that they could think up, but ignored by the rest of the community, ie Milk quotas, Neonicotinoids. Etc
We voted not to loose our rights as a country, probably failed but at least it was our right to vote and we did while we still could.
I fear another 10 years in it would have been seen as treason, by the grubby MEP”s
shakey jake
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The point of the petition is bed wetters crying into their copy of the daily sport, get to moan democratically whilst ignore the will of the people
nun_hunter
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Yes totally. Voting for the status quo is the easy option as you know what it is. However, your point is equally valid that in 50 year those who voted for brexit may regret their decision depending on what happens as how it was delivered wasn't what they hoped for.
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