Suspected as much.
I am only just squeaking deer legal with my 25-45, slightly lower case capacity but I’m running a 25” barrel
Friday Contemplation - Ideal short barreled forrest deer rifle and calibre?
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I am only just squeaking deer legal with my 25-45, slightly lower case capacity but I’m running a 25” barrel
welshwarrior
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18.5” in the factory 7.62x39 is getting to deer legal with little issue with the right powder.
Apologies was talking to the 6.5 Grendel, haven't looked into the 7.63x39 but I also noticed that very few rifles do well in 16"....
welshwarrior
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Yes 16” is short for most tasks but popular on AR platforms. My response was the someone commenting on a 7.62 x39 struggling to get deer legal.
Struggling to get deer legal with a 16” barrel….. which I stand by.
What load and what speeds are you getting with your 18.5”?
(Load data source if you don’t want to risk specific load being copied by others?)
Smellydog
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I know, I'm so out of date. I do assure you though, I was not worried back then! The law is a donkey!
I don't know. I think that part of my (unsaid) point was that with the small action and possibly an over barrel mod it could run a longer barrel and still not be too clumsy.
Sorry should have put all my assumptions in, in full.
David.
From what I've read in US sources, these appear to be a leading choice for Whitetail deer hunting with the Grendel on your side of the pond.
ChesterP
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A bit left field but a nice Schultz and Larsen Legacy rifle in 300 Blackout might be worth a shout as a lovely lightweight woodland Stalker? With an aim point or decent 4x32 or 4x40 it'd make a lovely light rifle. I'd possibly go that route or look to find a Ruger Ranch in .30 cal.
welshwarrior
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I think you’ve asked me this several times before rs62 just under book max with a Hornady sst 123grain bullet works in 2 factory CZ 527 accurate and deer legal, the loads can be worked up further but it’s not a ‘requirement’
16” will struggle with most rifles, the Grendel and x39 are not alone there!
Would need a very long barrel, my QL maths says a 34" barrel would do that for 1700 ft-lb on 300BLK.. nah.
Heym SR20
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This I think is the perfect woodland gun. 25” break barrel that handles like a fine shotgun. It’s short overall length and about 7lbs all up weight. 25” barrel keeps noise and muzzle blast down. Great for snap shooting, shooting running game, but also accurate enough to take a 250 yard shot. 7x65R cartridge cal deal with pretty much anything. My go to is a 140gn load at moderate velocity, but you can step it up to 270 win type performance. And if you are hunting big hairy animals the 173gn make sense.
You can load and unload it silently, you can carry it in the crook of your arm like a shotgun, it breaks down for easy transport, and it doesn’t scare the dogwalkers.
And the top 16 bore barrel is good for phaesant, woodcock, duck etc or with a slug then back up on big game. And I have another rifled barrel that slips in to give me a double rifle for when I need such capabilities.
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Yeah I have sorry, my point was it will struggle with the short barrel to reach deer legal, not that the cartridge wasn’t capable in a longer barrelled set up.
The answer for the OP has to be a .308 I would suggest!
Ain’t going to be all deer legal in a 16” configuration, will struggle to reach with a long barrel!
What is this beast!
ChesterP
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True...the bullets would have to be zipping along to achieve 1700. Probably more like 1200 to 1300 ft-lbs with their standard barrel. The Classic in .308 would be a nice light rifle. I'd keep the barrel at 18 to 20 inches for handling and balance and use a short, lightweight mod. Then there's the Winchester 30-30 short action which should be good for 2000 ft-lbs +. Nice and light at 3.3Kg
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Heym SR20
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A 16/7x65r combination gun built in Ferlach by Joseph Hambrusch in 1974. Fitted with a 6x42 Zeiss from new. It was built for a German industrialist who the fled to Namibia with all his rifles to avoid the attention of German tax authorities. He subsequently fell foul of the Namibian tax authorities and all his guns were consigned to Holts. I bought it from Holts about 12 years ago for a total price of just over £1,000.
I love using it. Like all combinations they don’t like multiple rapid shots - bullets shoot higher as barrel warms. It’s also light, with quite a bit of recoil, so you do need to have a firm hold when shooting. Other than that, its the last gun I would get rid off.
They certainly work. Haven't shot a whitetail with them but I've dumped (larger) mule deer with authority! ~Muir
Bavarianbrit
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Got one 14" in .35 Remington.
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