Game dealer nightmare!
- Thread starter Shavesgreen
- Start date
Cut+Squirt
Well-Known Member
liongeorge
Well-Known Member
Why have you not got a relationship with a local dealer? Where the f is Peterborough.
+1 for Robin at White Rabbits . I don't mind if it isn't the highest price in the country, he always pays cash you can drop off when you like or he'll collect and a nice bloke as well. As for the lad in Sherfield english there has been talk of this for a year or two nothings happened yet and I doubt he will be able to take any quantity.
If you want really top dollar contact Lee Dart but I'm happy to stick with Robin.
If you had an agreement and it's been broken then stand on your word and send him A CCJ application. Costs £15 I think or a solicitors letter £50. Seems to let people know your not putting up with their poor morals.
Doesn't matter what his deal is with others, it the deal he made with you that matters.
Doesn't matter what his deal is with others, it the deal he made with you that matters.
Monkey Spanker
Well-Known Member
I've had over 50 collections from PB game now which is probably over 200 deer. They have only ever docked me money for one Roe which had saddle damage which was declared by myself. They pay more than anyone else, currently £3/kg for Roe and £2.80/kg for Red & Fallow.
Sure, they may not pay instantly, but they will pay and usually without too much prompting.
They are a large company and probably have a lot of suppliers and providers to deal with.
Out of interest, how long ago did they receive? I'm guessing it was 2 roe bucks?
MS
Sure, they may not pay instantly, but they will pay and usually without too much prompting.
They are a large company and probably have a lot of suppliers and providers to deal with.
Out of interest, how long ago did they receive? I'm guessing it was 2 roe bucks?
MS
Overlay
Well-Known Member
I guess everyone on here has a story to tell about game dealers and payments
after going through the mill I have now found one 5 mins from me who, providing I ring him he leaves the fridge padlock unlocked and I can drop the deer off and lock it back up afterwards and and he weighs out the next morning the other one I use on occasion weighs out after a week.
You have to go through the rough to get to the smooth, just like any other business there are good and bad alike anywhere you go, I had my fair share I can tell you, perseverance pays off I'm very pleased with the ones I use.
atb
phil
after going through the mill I have now found one 5 mins from me who, providing I ring him he leaves the fridge padlock unlocked and I can drop the deer off and lock it back up afterwards and and he weighs out the next morning the other one I use on occasion weighs out after a week.
You have to go through the rough to get to the smooth, just like any other business there are good and bad alike anywhere you go, I had my fair share I can tell you, perseverance pays off I'm very pleased with the ones I use.
atb
phil
Monkey Spanker
Well-Known Member
You should also consider that we are right in the middle of the game bird season which will make them extremely busy.
Getting grief of one person for a mere £107 will just be annoying. I doubt his Christmas will rely on it either.
If £107 means a lot to you, then maybe find an outlet that gives you instant cash? You are obviously a registered food business as you have to be by law to sell to a game dealer, so have you considered selling to other outlets such as pubs and restaurants?
MS
Getting grief of one person for a mere £107 will just be annoying. I doubt his Christmas will rely on it either.
If £107 means a lot to you, then maybe find an outlet that gives you instant cash? You are obviously a registered food business as you have to be by law to sell to a game dealer, so have you considered selling to other outlets such as pubs and restaurants?
MS
even if its in the skin?
Reading the original post, from my understanding, payment was £107 short of the agreed price, and when contacted there attitude was " so"
Are any of the people making excuses for game dealers,actually in business as sole traders, if so please send me your details of your trades, as I would like to use you, but don,t expect payment in a hurry or the correct amount, and I am sure you will understand, I am a busy man it's the hunting season. Muppets
Are any of the people making excuses for game dealers,actually in business as sole traders, if so please send me your details of your trades, as I would like to use you, but don,t expect payment in a hurry or the correct amount, and I am sure you will understand, I am a busy man it's the hunting season. Muppets
Monkey Spanker
Well-Known Member
Yes! The dealer could even say he binned it as it was from an illegal source.
Monkey Spanker
Well-Known Member
You haven't yet stated the reason for the change in agreed price? If it is due to price drop per kg after the agreement, then you have good argument. However, if it is due to carcass damage you may not.
One of the reasons I use PB Game is because they do not dictate where deer should be shot! No more is paid for head/neck shot animals, and no less is paid for a clean chest shot animal with shoulder damage. They will however deduct for Haunch or Saddle damage or contamination which is understandable. It is often not until a beast is skinned that this damage/contam is apparent!
A high chest shot is normally the cause of this where the spine is damaged. Blood and bruising can be found a good way back from the shot site which ruins the saddle/fillet. A seemingly good chest shot which clips the food pipe can end up with a huge green mess under the exit shoulder blade as a good friend of mine on here discovered just recently! Having dealt with the company for a good while now, I have no doubt that the veterinary inspection process is carried out fairly and honest deductions made where appropriate.
There are too many cases on here lately where reputable companies receive 'trial by keyboard' and have reputations damaged, yet we are only seeing one side of the story when there is always two!
I'm not suggesting that this is the case here, but sometimes it's better to wait until the whole truth is out before passing judgement?
As for sole traders, they too should expect a deduction in pay for poor work or damage caused.
I hope this matter meets a just conclusion - either way.
MS
Looking at the OP I have sympathy,I took a couple of decent fallow carcasses there once,spoke to a person who seemed to personify the Witch of Endor, so put them back on the truck and left. Not a welcoming place!! I now use a small dealer a few miles further,only accepts first class animals but pays cash.
Monkey Spanker, you're not correct in what you say.
A trained hunter can sell large and small wild game as a primary product, i.e. in the the skin/feather to game dealers.
This link gives more info: The British Deer Society - new game meat laws
stalker.308
Well-Known Member
Guys, just because you keep saying it is not true, it does not make it so!
READ THE FSA 'Wild Game Guide' http://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/multimedia/pdfs/guidance/wild-game-guide.pdf
In the flow chart in this revised guide for 2014 it CLEARLY states on page 8, situation 3:
View attachment 49059
3, If as a hunter, you shoot alone, as part of a shooting party or arrange shoots with/for others and supply in-fur/in-feather game to an AGHE (note by me: which by definition game dealers are) -----------------------------> You are required to register as a food business with your local authority and comply with the general hygiene requirements for primary producers. This includes any vehicle you use when supplying the AGHE and your game larder, if you use it to store game before it goes to an AGHE as well as the specific provisions of the regulation 853/2004 that apply to initial handling of wild game intended for subsequent supply to an AGHE.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, argue it all you want, if you supply to a game dealer you must be registered as a food business operator, unless you want to argue that the Food Standards Agency document on game is wrong.
Shavesgreen
Well-Known Member
Taff, you nailed it.
MS, Here are the full details.
Price agreed two days before the cull £3 kg with the owner.
Payment terms of 28 days (standard).
Game collected and weights agreed at 536.5kg, all carcasses clean and head shot, no deductions.
Payment chased and chased again after the 28 days were up.
Payment received after 35 days but the amount was equal to £2.80kg.
I spoke to the lad handling my account and was told that the owner had never agreed that price and was not willing to speak to me on the phone.
As far as I`m concerned he has reneged on a verbal agreement and all trust is lost.
MS, Here are the full details.
Price agreed two days before the cull £3 kg with the owner.
Payment terms of 28 days (standard).
Game collected and weights agreed at 536.5kg, all carcasses clean and head shot, no deductions.
Payment chased and chased again after the 28 days were up.
Payment received after 35 days but the amount was equal to £2.80kg.
I spoke to the lad handling my account and was told that the owner had never agreed that price and was not willing to speak to me on the phone.
As far as I`m concerned he has reneged on a verbal agreement and all trust is lost.
Monkey Spanker
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I'd be pretty pi55ed off with that too! Sounds like he's lost a good supplier for the sake of 20p/kg.
Regards,
MS
Monkey Spanker
Well-Known Member
Fursty Ferret
Well-Known Member
highland stalker
Well-Known Member
If you had included this in your original post you could of saved loads of confusion.
Your reason for being a bit upset is a lot clearer now.
Similar threads
